Camille is the first toplaner who reached 20% pick rate+

Ahristocats··6 votes·974 views

while having a disgusting high win rate

when are we going to tune down that broken kit?

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Critmaster Garen4 votes

or instead of nerfing camille, we could buff more bruisers.

Ahristocats2 votes

she can legit solo carry a game, this pick is so broken and you want to make every toplaner broken? do you know what a camille can do actually? do you know the amount of things that kit can do?

how aboutyou make every toplaner balanced instead?

Critmaster Garen3 votes

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she can legit solo carry a game, this pick is so broken and you want to make every toplaner broken? do you know what a camille can do actually? do you know the amount of things that kit can do?

how aboutyou make every toplaner balanced instead?

cool. so the one top lane bruiser who has some game impact and some ability to carry, because she has such a high ability to roam and lock down targets gets nerfed.

its not like riot is actually going to nerf bot lane. its been almost a complete fucking year since they overshot with the crit item buffs, and they still havent done anything significant about how much impact turret first blood has on the game as a whole.

Ahristocats3 votes

Allow me to correct you

A single top lane bruiser is able to face roll the entire fucking game and you want to do the same for every single toplaner

said like this, suddenly your statement ends up being horrible

Rexxiee2 votes

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or instead of nerfing camille, we could buff more bruisers.

Or we could you know nerf her and not powercreep the game even further.

Camille, just like GP and Vlad are batshit op right now, they need nerfs.

Salron4 votes

dw shes picked in every other high elo match and has had massive competitive prescence this season Must be balanced http://puu.sh/zfSAS/a2666bd6a2.jpg buffed for no reason in patch 7.24 btw https://cdn.frankerfacez.com/emoticon/144811/4

3 of the top few toplane NA challenger players are also camille mains MUST BE BALANCED

Oleandervine2 votes

What is the source of this? What statistics are these pulling from? The common sites like Champion.GG and OP.GG have her listed at 50.97% and thereabouts as her win rate. If she's showing such winrates in massively high ELO, that's not a problem for the majority of the gaming population, and is absolutely no reason to wholesale gut her. I would like to see this site you're drawing this information from, because if there are other champions at this winrate in high ELO, it's likely not a problem with the champion and just a matter of a small population pool to draw statistics from.

Salron1 votes
Oleandervine2 votes

Those statistics are drawn from 56 games where she was played. At the beginning of Season 8, as we are currently in. 56 games is not a high enough sample pool to draw conclusive data from. Of course it will be skewed If the sample pool is incredibly small and filled with nothing but one tricks.

Salron1 votes

yeah let's just ignore all the bans that's over 200 games total with a massive 71% prescence

Oleandervine1 votes

It is, but this is the first full season to feature 10 bans, so naturally we will be seeing more bans than we have in the past.

Salron1 votes

You're grasping at straws Balanced champions don't see such high pick/ban rates in high elo and competitive ever

Diamond2Kappa3 votes

but shes a bruiser hehe

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

They probably have to figure out something. While she is strong on players who mastered her and high elo, she doesn't really perform overbearing in lower levels of play.

So they should nerf her skill ceiling, but leaving her untouched for low elo players.

Abibyama1 votes

Increasing the duration between Q1 and Q2 would be a start

TehNACHO2 votes

Never because she's a Bruiser and they're suffering and dying to Tanks

/s

Oleandervine2 votes

WTF you talking about, her win rate isn't even 51%.

Oleandervine2 votes

It shows 52.87% in top, which is hardly enough to get upset about. Plus, her ADC winrate is at 100%, and her Support winrate is 60%. I hardly think there's a large enough sample pool to get accurate data on this.

Ahristocats3 votes

52.87% win rate is actually too much, especially on a high pick rate champ

and are you trolling on her adc win rate or are you trolling? because look at the damn pick rate

Oleandervine2 votes

Her games played from another site was 56 total this season. My point is that the sample pool sizes are too low to get accurate date, especially given how short of a time S8 has been going. If she still had these rate at the end of February, then yes, they'd be alarming, but until there have been more games to get accurate statistical readings, then there's not any reason to start panicking. For instance, you've played 20 games this season, which leaves you with a 58% loss rate in Challenger - does that accurately reflect your skill level compared to other seasons, where you might have 300-400 games under your belt? Probably not, because it's very difficult to get accurate statistics when what you're getting your data from is small, and since one trick ponies are the ones who have been playing her, naturally they would be showing exemplary skills. That's the reason I brough up her ADC and support winrates. They're incredibly high because he number of games where she was taken to those roles in ranked are so so few. That is what a lack of data does, it inflates the statistics you're pulling from your sample pool. So come back again in a month, when Season 8 has been under way for enough time, and then see if she's still a problem.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

What's her win rate?

Sasogwa1 votes

French rubick? :o

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

Huh, seems like Gbay99 was onto something here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpA_P-mjrwQ

Meep Man1 votes

Eh, Gbay has historically liked to praise the champions he plays, like Irelia and Camille, often arguing against facts that have later been proven to be correct, sometimes even by Riot themselves. He's a good player, but he's a VERY biased voice in my opinion.

NemeBro2 votes

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Eh, Gbay has historically liked to praise the champions he plays, like Irelia and Camille, often arguing against facts that have later been proven to be correct, sometimes even by Riot themselves. He's a good player, but he's a VERY biased voice in my opinion.

Yeah, when he girlishly whined about how he just wants to be free to play Irelia without being countered by champions like Teemo and ignoring how hilariously hard Irelia counters some other top laners I rolled my eyes. He's delusional.

Colton1471 votes

Camille got gutted with her nerfs when she was released.

theminiom1 votes

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Meep Man1 votes

Not the first. Not by a long shot.

NemeBro1 votes

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while having a disgusting high win rate

when are we going to tune down that broken kit?

Camille is definitely too strong right new and could definitely stand to be nerfed, but Camille's kit is fine. Her numbers need to be tuned and, if at all possible, she needs to lose her synergy with arcane comet, considering how much it helps her through what is meant to be her weakest point, the early game.

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