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i'm fucking tired of jayce seriously

Ahristocats··177 votes·9,429 views

and what tires me more is how riot acts "hahah jayce is fine, no nerfs"

we're nerfing darius, but jayce is more a lane bully than darius, and remove 50% of your adc hp with one E+Q in late game forcing them to go back

and why the fuck are we allowing him to do that? it's not like he brings utility to the team too, or incredible mobility that allows him and his team to travel the map in 2 seconds

but wait, WE'RE BUFFING HIM WITH LETHALITY in next patch LOL holy fucking scheiss

149 Comments

WinTheWarOnPants47 votes

I've been saying this forever. He is pretty much an AD Nidalee but 100 times more cancer. Everyone always cries "OMG nid spear so OP! rito nerf broken champ!" meanwhile Jayce Q has more range, more dmg, bigger hitbox, faster travel speed and IT'S AOE! not to mention all the other BS like resistances in melee, MS out the ass, etc etc. I could go on forever about how BS this champ is.

Ahristocats5 votes

it's impossible to dodge jayce Q with his E

salty testi12 votes

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CasterGilgamesh17 votes

the explosion range is though.....

SoryInAdvance2 votes

bud if the shot misses, you're not going to get hit by the explosion thats smaller than a karthus q

RogueWill3 votes

It used to be high mana so it was balanced. He could realistically use it once or twice before going oom. Then they buffed his mana regen and well this was meant to happen. He can spam it know without much regard since the balancing factor is gone

WinTheWarOnPants23 votes

It still was by no means balanced. His BS was just gated in the exact same way they gated old yorick and poppy's broken kits. when he kept going oom it kept you from seeing just how insanely overloaded and broken he is. Now that he doesn't go oom as easily you get to see how cancer his kit really is.

RogueWill6 votes

How is not balanced? it required a great risk and thus ended up with a big reward. If you missed it you would be oom and the kill pressure would go to your opponent. Jayce is by no means a good all in champion, he has to wear you down before he can go to melee form for the kill.

Kosm1K10 votes

It's not balanced because you're just counting on that jayce to miss. It's his lane to lose, not really an outplay

UrPalAl2 votes

They should reduce his base mana Regen and increase him hammer stance on hit mana

His way if he wants to get mana back he has to risk getting toaster-stroodled

salty testi14 votes

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SlntReaper7 votes

Yasuo falls off?

Fondling Gems2 votes

He actually does for a bit. He is weakest early game, gets his 2 item powerspike, then his winrate actually drops before spiking up for late game.

The comparison isn't actually a good one though because Jayce just keeps falling off the longer the game goes on.

MohawkBird20 votes

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1000angrybees5 votes

thanks for not being 9 years old about this. There are points to these threads, but they come across as SO whiny that I don't care. the melodrama is real

Arakadia10 votes

His E+Q powered up is like a nid spear that is AoE, much faster, and more rewarding.

xevi6 votes

I don't think his eq scales with range either it just deals tons of dmg in AoE

Arakadia4 votes

That too.

SirTeemoMushroom10 votes

sorry bro, E-Q is 100% health if u hit an adc actually

Spartan Potatoes9 votes

Logged in just to up vote this. I'm a simple person. I read title. I see "fuck" and I see "Jayce" in the same sentence, I up vote. Seriously, Fuck Jayce, fuck him so hard. He's like a "smaller range Caitlyn with the same damage output." His Q NOT ONLY CLOSES A GAP. But it slows. So if he wants to engage, he engages. His E is A DISENGAGE, so if you engage and he's like "nah, not now, maybe in a bit then we'll fight." summoner 4 Don't ever get me started on how I can't flash this guy abilities.

And yes for all you who thinks Jayce is completely "Ok and fair". I KNOW YOU'RE THERE. I KNOW YOUR ONE AND ONLY EXCUSE. Typical Jayce Players who feeds off our tears: Hurr durr, he's not broken, just play Poppy. Poppy is a counter.

Kled "SHUT THE HELL UP!" Not everyone enjoys playing Poppy. Not everyone plays Draft. Please nerf. I couldn't give 2 flying fucks about Caitlyn. Just fuck Jayce.

rengar vore3 votes

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Logged in just to up vote this. I'm a simple person. I read title. I see "fuck" and I see "Jayce" in the same sentence, I up vote. Seriously, Fuck Jayce, fuck him so hard. He's like a "smaller range Caitlyn with the same damage output." His Q NOT ONLY CLOSES A GAP. But it slows. So if he wants to engage, he engages. His E is A DISENGAGE, so if you engage and he's like "nah, not now, maybe in a bit then we'll fight." summoner 4 Don't ever get me started on how I can't flash this guy abilities.

And yes for all you who thinks Jayce is completely "Ok and fair". I KNOW YOU'RE THERE. I KNOW YOUR ONE AND ONLY EXCUSE. Typical Jayce Players who feeds off our tears: Hurr durr, he's not broken, just play Poppy. Poppy is a counter.

Kled "SHUT THE HELL UP!" Not everyone enjoys playing Poppy. Not everyone plays Draft. Please nerf. I couldn't give 2 flying fucks about Caitlyn. Just fuck Jayce.

im scared

GayFluffyUnicorn5 votes

Except his Q gets interrupted by any ability that displaces you, stuns or roots you. Stop exaggerating so hard. I don't like laning against jayce either but he's nowhere as bad as boards make him look like. Yasuo, lee and vayne rants are over now it is time for jayce again.

Ben Sharpio7 votes

well, he falls off late game so he's kinda balanced in that sense. Darius is incredibly strong early game and scales well into late game.

Ahristocats41 votes

darius falls off more than jayce does

jayce falls off in the meaning he's useless in teamfight, but his poke is fucking op

RexSaur13 votes

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darius falls of more than jayce does

jayce falls off in the meaning he's useless in teamfight, but his poke is fucking op

I mean lets be real here, darius has a much stronger team fight and late game compared to jayce (he can be a real frontline with huge damage).

Tanks can just tank the jayce EQ like its nothing late game and since it has like a 10s~cd even at max cdr it means hes pretty bad at that stage.

You can pick darius, lose lane to jayce and then win the game later on.

Not that jayce isnt overpowered, he is but atleast he has some kind of weaker point in the game, and honestly the top meta just kind of suck, its either OP tanks/CoC abusers or jayce, so you get super punished for trying to play anything but those.

Sahn Uzal14 votes

Darius falls off when tanks start falling off. Aka when the enemy ADC buys this thing item 3036 It becomes really hard for him to stack up his Noxian might without dying in the proces of doing it. Jayce falls off, but his Range allows him a certain safety, which inherently makes him scale better.

RexSaur4 votes

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Darius falls off when tanks start falling off. Aka when the enemy ADC buys this thing item 3036 It becomes really hard for him to stack up his Noxian might without dying in the proces of doing it. Jayce falls off, but his Range allows him a certain safety, which inherently makes him scale better.

Jayce has 500 range and any adc outdpses him.

He cant just walk up and AA ppl like an adc can because his AA range is short (so he instantly dies if he does that in range of any gap closer or adc), his only huge range ability is his EQ which again has a pretty long cd and is body blocked by tanks.

Darius can run down most adcs that arent vayne, but yes adcs + peel beats darius and thats supposed to happen, but darius ALSO has a team himself to help him get and stay in range.

Sahn Uzal13 votes

I don't think Jayce is supposed to EQ from the middle of the lane, he's supposed to EQ from the side so he can hit the backline AFAIk.

ShaolinToilet2 votes

Stats say otherwise

MunchCrunchLunch3 votes

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I mean lets be real here, darius has a much stronger team fight and late game compared to jayce (he can be a real frontline with huge damage).

Tanks can just tank the jayce EQ like its nothing late game and since it has like a 10s~cd even at max cdr it means hes pretty bad at that stage.

You can pick darius, lose lane to jayce and then win the game later on.

Not that jayce isnt overpowered, he is but atleast he has some kind of weaker point in the game, and honestly the top meta just kind of suck, its either OP tanks/CoC abusers or jayce, so you get super punished for trying to play anything but those.

no bro jayce with 4 armor pen item will shred tanks for their carries to kill. he hurts like fuck.

PermabannedGaren6 votes

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darius falls off more than jayce does

jayce falls off in the meaning he's useless in teamfight, but his poke is fucking op

Yet as the game hits 40+ minutes Jayce's win rate plummets down to 46-47%, whereas Darius hovers around 50%.

This is consistently the case in every patch.

Jayce's poke isn't even particularly good late game. Xerath's is similar range, lower cooldown, and does equal or better damage per Q. He also has other abilities he can actually poke with. Xerath is an actual late game poke champion.

Jayce is just a poor man's version of a poke champ/melee carry late game. He can't poke nearly as hard as Xerath can, nor does he crush people in melee nearly as hard as a Yasuo can. His utter lack of utility and relatively meager crowd control doesn't help matters.

He's still extremely stupid and overpowered, but that's strictly due to his early game.

Sasogwa19 votes

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well, he falls off late game so he's kinda balanced in that sense. Darius is incredibly strong early game and scales well into late game.

Jayce falling off is a myth. He's got insanely powerful burst ; can splitpush decently and has good poke. He's not a hypercarry lategame ; but he's really decent lategame.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Not a myth but a statistical fact.

Warbird0017 votes

"Holy Fucking Scheiss"

That's some German shit, right there! XD

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Cosmic Warper6 votes

My friend played j4 top, got 3 kills on jayce early with the help of our jungler. Jayce finally finishes cleaver like 20 min into the game and outduels him.... nice champ. Even when he's behind he can outduel most champs that aren't primary tanks.

GayFluffyUnicorn5 votes

Then your friends build must have been garbage.

420 grams5 votes

Jayce can also seige well being ranged and able to max his as with an ability

Violet Fields5 votes

and remove 50% of your adc hp with one E+Q in late game forcing them to go back

You can say the same for Katarina, Master Yi, and Camille.

Look, if you don't build any defense against him, you are going to get one shotted. How Jayce works is that he uses his ranged abilities, then he switches to melee stance and uses all his abilities in melee stance. Once he all-ins that's when he becomes vulnerable.

Before Lethality his early game was incredibly op, easy to gain an advantage if you don't dodge his abilities. But he also had a pretty bad late game. When building Lethality, it scales with his late game now. Its not just instant armor penetration.

His early game was nerfed and his late game was buffed.

Cowseed3 votes

Don't 80% of the champion pool have the ability to remove 50% of an adc's (squishy) health with two or less skills?

Your post is stupid.

Ahristocats9 votes

not from 1400 range while being almost undodgeable

Danjeng6 votes

Undodgeable?

Ahristocats7 votes

i said almost undodgeable, the projectile speed is too high and the explosion radius too

Jaghatai3 votes

It's got a giant freaking neon sign that says "DODGE NOW" It's seriously one of the easiest skill shots in the game to dodge. Jayce has to telegraph it so much, or has to take a nearly wild shot to try to hit you by exploiting quick-casting.

TeCoolMage6 votes

actually I'm pretty sure you can put up a gate after throwing out your Q.

Cowseed3 votes

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Ahristocats5 votes

i see a lot of dodgeable skillshots

Cowseed5 votes

If you can dodge Lux Ult then you have nothing to really be complaining about and should really stfu

Ahristocats7 votes

the fuck is your problem son? lux ulti has 300 units width, and 1 sec channeling time, if you have more than 300 ms you can dodge it

Cowseed2 votes

Well considering the fact that I see challenger streamers dying to this ult and they have around 30ms ping I guess your right. I'm just an ass. Sorry for making a fool of myself. I won't bother you anymore.

Sahn Uzal3 votes

There's a good reason Lux's Snare is what she combo's off. If she just tries to point blank ult, everyone with more reaction time than a potato can dodge the damn thing.

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