Riot, I DON'T want to play with premades

Ahristocats··179 votes·8,641 views

Years ago i left the game because i went studying medicine. I left the account on diamond 1 in season 3. I was planning to come back soon around the summer, until i see what you did with the dynamic queue. Seriously? Imqt is waiting 40 min to get a game, everyone knew that it would happen in high elo, you have far less players than in bronze/silver, there is around 1000 players in diamond 1. Most of them don't play soloQ all the time but want to get challenger in 5v5 tryhard and hope to be pro one time so they always plays as 5 , what does that means? that means that near EVERYONE will premade as 5 and go to soloQ, so unless you play yourself with a team there is a high chance that you get matched with 5v5 team. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4124px/spoiler_echo_fox_vs_dynamic_queue_na_solo_q/ for example, or the CLG game that some poeple saw on clgaming. I DON'T want to play with a team made of 5 people that plays league everyday to be a pro, i JUST want to play alone but well waiting 40 min to play a game, how is this even possible.

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doublelift fg47 votes

scarra found a game after 55 min

did not work because of an accidental dodge

edit: according to lyte 10 min ago, there will be a new special queue for solo players where duo/3/4/5 isn't in this queue

Señor Karthus2 votes

High Elo should be worldwide matching though. I know this is problematic for certain regions that are not as good but...

Dragonis Gardia2 votes

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High Elo should be worldwide matching though. I know this is problematic for certain regions that are not as good but...

that would be great but i have a 5 times higher ping on na than euw so i think it could be unfair for certain people

Hopeslayer1 votes

ya 500 ping would be super fun

Ahristocats3 votes

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edit: according to lyte 10 min ago, there will be a new special queue for solo players where duo/3/4/5 isn't in this queue

that's a good new to hear for real

No Ganks1 votes

Yeah but that means no duo anymore

LeBlanc Jameś1 votes

duo in dynamic

No Ganks1 votes

And vs a fiveman

8Hz98hmIDG2 votes
KONO RUBICK DA11 votes

riot encourages high elo to smurf

ACENOX10 votes

i feel bad for you sir, and of course for everyone who try to get a game since an hour.

Iif riot wants to fixe the quaility of games in high elo, they need to get ride of premade as 5 in soloQ, it doesn't even makes sens

soloQ is here to scale your solo experiance,

i hate dota 2, but they also have a dynamic Q, the difference is that there is 2 numbers, one if you decide to play alone, and one if you decide to play as 2/3/5

The Sword Saint10 votes

It's not soloq anymore. Solo que is gone, it's not even called that in the client. It's ranked draft now.

RIPxMidnight8 votes

Seems like a good solution could be to make two queues: Soloqueue and Dynamic Queue. One is true solo play, the other is for teams of 2,3, or 5. Priority would be for 5s to play other 5s , 2s + 3s to play other 2s + 3s.

Dominick Destine5 votes

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Seems like a good solution could be to make two queues: Soloqueue and Dynamic Queue. One is true solo play, the other is for teams of 2,3, or 5. Priority would be for 5s to play other 5s , 2s + 3s to play other 2s + 3s.

99% of the player base would immediately go to the True Solo Queue and the Dynamic Queue would fail/be abandoned.

I.e. removing solo queue was the worst decision Riot has ever made, bar none.

ModCaptainMårvelous3 votes

Naw.

The dynamic queue is mostly for casual audience, remember. While true solo queue would be played by some, I'd guess the majority would go for dynamic queue because it means they can play with their friends. Can't forget that about 70-90% of the player base is gold and below. Most of them care more about playing with friends than playing a true ranked experience.

LaserDeathBlade3 votes

There's normals for that

'Dynamic Queue' is literally the same thing as normal games except now you get a worthless rating at the end.

ModCaptainMårvelous2 votes

And some people wanna play ranked.

Like I don't think it's right for ranked either but I'm just pointing out that casual player-bases will prefer it. I think what would be best is the solo queue/dynamic queue split (True solo and true dynamic). A good chunk would rather play alone and a good chunk would get 2-4 friends to party with.

LaserDeathBlade2 votes

True Dynamic matchmaking would take forever because not enough solo players will want to join it

Right now Riot is just forcing solo queuers to fill in for Premades to shove Dynamic Matchmaking down our throats.

ntbcool2 votes

This would increase queue times for everyone because it slits the matchmaking service even more, also the system already matches 5 queues with 5 or 4q and matches 4qs with 4qs

Serika Zero1 votes

then what's the point of ranked team games anymore?

LaserDeathBlade5 votes

No, the question is what's the point of Dynamic Queue right now?

It's not Solo Queue nor is it Ranked teams. It's essentially normal games except now you get a rank that means next to nothing.

LaserDeathBlade4 votes

Then nobody will play Dynamic Queue. Riot is well aware Dynamic Queue fuks over solo players and that Dynamic queue would never work if Solo Queuers could opt out of it.

Dehorn5 votes

i got paired with a fun premade that would ban or lock in everyone elses potential picks. fun stuff.

D357R0Y3R4 votes

again, high elo are a minority like 0.1%,

Troiann40 votes

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Oh, the Jews were only 0.01% of the world's population. Who cares about them amirite?

Riot has to take all players accounts into consideration. Especially since high elo players are more valuable. They tend to have spent more money and spent more time playing this game and trying to master it.

Alleo11 votes

Except for the people who don't play ranked and spend money on the game and just want to have fun.

staticX261 votes

If what you said was true, riot wouldn't have adopted this dynamic queue in ranked games.

Alleo2 votes

He was saying that high elo people spend more money and time on this game than anyone else, I know since I am unranked and spend 4-6 hours on League per day I try to get to be the best player that I can be but as of right now I don't play ranked because I want to get to the point where I can compete in every position before I can do that. So its not strictly high elo players who put a lot of time and money into the game.

LeBlanc Jameś2 votes

High elo has no bearing on how much money one spends on the game.

Alleo2 votes

That's what I was saying in my first reply to him.

LeBlanc Jameś2 votes

My bad, i see it now. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Hydroc77719 votes

No, just no. You don't get to compare a long wait time to the Holocaust. Please never do that again.

Troiann20 votes

I'm not comparing the acts, I'm comparing the discrimination against a certain group of people because they're the minority.

Of course long queue waits aren't equatable to gassing.

Spoofghoul7 votes

But Rito just comitted holocaust on soloQ

It Hertz When IP4 votes

Godwin's Law has been invoked. Thread is officially over.

Ahristocats33 votes

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again, high elo are a minority like 0.1%,

Would you say this if you had 40 min queue time?

Rew7112 votes

I've had to wait 20 minutes just to look for games, I don't want to wait a extra 20 (+) to find one. I also see Riot all the time say they take Diamond and Challenger players into account more than most other players. I'm not one, and I like to play for fun, but you have a right to say this. That guy is one of the many who are trying to justify what Riot does. I have yet to even get a urge to play as it is right now. Its not that I don't want to play, but with the length of time I have to go through to find a game, go through all the steps Riot implemented, load up the game, and play through it, I could had just spent a whole hour doing something else productive. I already get a hard time for playing 20 minutes, I don't think my family will tolerate a hour per game.

doublelift fg18 votes

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again, high elo are a minority like 0.1%,

euw Destroyer as a name has urf icon

TL MuffinLoL4 votes

Dynamic Queue is their worst decision.

K0zmonaut2 votes

can people learn to type in English before they post please?

Ahristocats2 votes

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can people learn to type in English before they post please?

sry, i'm russian

AninLegions7774 votes

He typed in English actually and as he stated below, he's russian meaning English is not his first language. So before making fun of people's language abilities, try finding out why they type like that. Hell, you remind me of Jennifer Lawrence at the Golden Globes.

Penta Penguin1 votes

Another Cash that thinks he's LCS

ACENOX5 votes

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Another Cash that thinks he's LCS

english is my first langage and i still don't understand this

Jus Clownin1 votes

Um.. I take it you didnt read the patch notes. It matches you against Duos if your Duo, Trios if you're trio, ect. It will not match 5 singles with a premade of 5s. Rarely will you even get a trio when there's only a duo.

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