So this is the Future

Ahristocats·Feb 26, 2017·205 votes·8,161 views

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167 mr on zed with 500 AD

thanks riot for edge of the night, the wonderful design of an item allowing an assassin to have 62% magic damage reduction (50% with void staff), an active that will probably never be balanced you can make it 5 sec duration it won't change a fucking damn thing when an assassin all-in you with 62% damage reduction, A shield, mercury tenacity while deleting you with R+E+Q

and then i get downvoted into oblivion in Meddler's thread by telling him that EON was a mistake **** this shit

222 Comments

Sahn UzalFeb 26, 201783 votes

http://reactionimage.org/img/gallery/2014761255.jpg

Best princess EUFeb 26, 201746 votes

Even ezreal is buying lethality, the game is good now

kappa

KorijenkinsFeb 26, 201743 votes

I thought you were quitting

AhristocatsFeb 26, 201724 votes

I don't remember writing anything like that care to show me?

i remember writing "let's wait the tank update", and "soloq is over" you know better than i do maybe?

KorijenkinsFeb 26, 201753 votes

Did you not post a long ass thread yesterday about how you were quitting because the meta had changed too much and you wanted to revert it back to the old days? It had links and posts to vids from ages ago.

doiminat0r3600Feb 26, 201729 votes

He posts a lot. It's rather annoying because he just says the same thing over and over again.

Literally:

This post (about edge of night and MR + AD combo) Games don't end at 18 minutes quick games because of lethality I just can't play League anymore <---This is the one you're asking for Flat armor pen didn't break the game lethality Tell me Meddler, how does one become able literally about lethality Season 7 vs Season 2 lethality vs old armor pen "you're insane, why do you want a tank meta!!!!!" Lethality Quinn is right-clicking me non-stop for 5 seconds as renekton Over reaction about his poor positioning and lethality. She probably escaped with less than half HP. Jhin needs power shift to make him buying crit instead of lethality Literally lethality Lethality Sion Lethality 7.2 in a nutshell Lethality

All of these in the past 8 days. How do people put up with this crap still?

Best princess EUFeb 26, 20176 votes

Half of the posts you listed are unrelated to lethality

And i see threads he posted on quinn, on botlane, on other things that are not related to lethality

and i don't find any problems with posting threads about lethality, because i don't see riot doing anything for it to be fixed

they try to fixe it but without any success, and i agree that edge of the night is problematic. And you, instead of trying to argue with him, decided to attack him directly by showing threads that he posted before

doiminat0r3600Feb 26, 20179 votes

Yes. But what you should notice, is the frequency of the threads on lethality. I mean seriously, 10/17 posts in the last 10 days have been about or related to Lethality. He just needs to stop. It's annoying to come on the boards and see the same Rehashed argument on the boards from the same person on a topic that was already addressed.

The Quinn post is about lethality because she builds lethality. Sona wouldn't have needed to make that without Quinn being strong because of lethality.

ZyniXFeb 27, 20171 votes

Oh stfu. Don't read his posts if you don't want to. No one is forcing you.

doiminat0r3600Feb 27, 20176 votes

Except the fact that it's on front page everyday because it's all circlejerk.

Just waiting for today's argument.

Off Meta EvanFeb 26, 20177 votes

Cause his points are still valid tbh. Tho yeah he did say he was quitting or some shit (to be fair I think we ALL say we gonna quit at some point.) But as long as his points/arguements are valid he's gonna have people happy with what he says. And repeating the same thing is the only way a company as stubborn as riot will actually listen. Throwback to how stubborn they were about solo Q and dynamic Q

Miror BFeb 26, 201725 votes

"an active that will probably never be balanced"

Doesn't that more or less sum up the past year for rito?

AhristocatsFeb 26, 20173 votes

what do you mean?

Miror BFeb 26, 201713 votes

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what do you mean?

Look at malz's passive, rengo's cc thingy, edge of night, or even zyra's plants. For some weird reason, it looks as if rito has an absolute "need" to rework character kits around an imbalanced tool that (because they refuse to admit their mistakes and make those tools "lighter") forces them to nerf the rest of their kits to keep them from being broken. Malz's kit was fine pre-rework, rito gives him a slightly more minion-focused/boring kit, adds probably the most OP passive in the game, and are then forced to nerf the rest of his kit into oblivion instead of shedding the passive which was causing the majority of his problems to begin with. Same goes with edge of night (which didn't "have" to exist, or could have but with a 3s timer on the shield instead of that 10-15s timer), zyra (still don't understand why she was reworked), and rengo (still don't understand why he was reworked).

GigglesOFeb 26, 20174 votes

and then there was Mordekaiser who pretty much gets nothing because "he might be able to trade with you due to his shield"

AhristocatsFeb 26, 20178 votes

DW, morde is mobile

oh wait

Vellich0rFeb 26, 20173 votes

Malz kit was not fine pre rework. He was unpopular sure, but if he was ever meta he was uber frustrating because he was a point and click assassin with his ult. Laning against him was always hell because all he needed was fog of war or flash and he could instantly zero you out with no counterplay except for an AP mid to buy qss.

Miror BFeb 26, 20172 votes

{quoted}

Malz kit was not fine pre rework. He was unpopular sure, but if he was ever meta he was uber frustrating because he was a point and click assassin with his ult. Laning against him was always hell because all he needed was fog of war or flash and he could instantly zero you out with no counterplay except for an AP mid to buy qss.

Compared to what it is now, your entire point kinda overlaps itself. Pre-work malz had a form of counterplay: if you cc'd him with anything, harassed him with poke, or managed to avoid his initial burst (remember, pre-work malz often didn't build a rylai's as things like a void staff were more efficient) then you could often just kill him outright afterwards. Your second line arguably sums up everything wrong with him now, as with zero items he can literally flash/w/ulti someone and do like 90% of their hp bar in a matter of seconds with no reliable way to "counter" him (as you effectively need to land 2 successive cc's in order to break the ulti), which is one of the reasons he became such a monster botlane. Pre-work malz was fun, and required a bit of skill to use properly (hence why I solo-climbed to silver 3 in my first 2 full months of ranked with him). New-work malz is essentially an ulti-bot who (thanks to the passive that rito refuses to remove for some reason) will probably have the rest of his ap ratios/cooldowns gutted so that the shield and ulti can exist in the same kit.

ZyniXFeb 27, 20172 votes

Uh Roa, Rylai's, and Liandries were core on old malz. In fact rylais is what made your W actually useful. This new malz however doesn't even come close to the damage old malz could do. I could flash q w e r and kill anyone before. Granted he was easily countered by any jungler/sash but unless your whole team bought a sash he'd just kill whoever didn't have one including tanks.

Old malz was my favorite champion and I hate this new one but I also had a 67% winrate with him during my first ranked season. The only champs that could solo him in lane were ranged poke and you simply played safe until your E could clear the wave.

doiminat0r3600Feb 26, 201724 votes

I just love how you keep making threads on this. You're really milking the upvotes here.

AhristocatsFeb 26, 20176 votes

thanks

doiminat0r3600Feb 26, 201719 votes

Wasn't a compliment. The worst thing is, you hardly wait 12 hours before making another post on lethality being OP or something.

Literally:

This post (about edge of night and MR + AD combo) Games don't end at 18 minutes quick games because of lethality I just can't play League anymore <---This is the one you're asking for Flat armor pen didn't break the game lethality Tell me Meddler, how does one become able literally about lethality Season 7 vs Season 2 lethality vs old armor pen "you're insane, why do you want a tank meta!!!!!" Lethality Quinn is right-clicking me non-stop for 5 seconds as renekton Over reaction about his poor positioning and lethality. She probably escaped with less than half HP. Jhin needs power shift to make him buying crit instead of lethality Literally lethality Lethality Sion Lethality 7.2 in a nutshell Lethality

AhristocatsFeb 26, 20177 votes

{quoted}

Wasn't a compliment. The worst thing is, you hardly wait 12 hours before making another post on lethality being OP or something.

So?

if i see bullshit stuff on faker stream like having 167 mr and 500 AD this makes me want to make a new thread on it, especially when meddler isn't considering to remove EON

doiminat0r3600Feb 26, 201723 votes

So shut the hell up.

They get it. It's stupid strong. They got it days ago. Now shut up and move on with your life and stop obsessing about some stupid online videogame that much. Don't like it? Play another game (like you said you would) and get off the boards with your stupid spam.

Beacon AcademyFeb 26, 201710 votes

To be fair,

It did take a majority of a season with daily threads on Dynamic Queue being bad to get a compromise.

doublelift fgFeb 26, 201717 votes

remember when marksmen had to buy banshee to not die

well riot allowed them to have edge of the night as long as you can make use of lethality

5000000000000000Feb 26, 201712 votes

Corki cries in magic damage Corki realizes that he doesn't need lethality in the first place

RFPSHBYQl7Feb 26, 201716 votes

5 seconds? Hell even 1-3 seconds would be enough. Stupid to see how fast the spellshield of Sivir and Nocturne ends. And how long cd is on banshee + it's real stupid that you can't take any damage....

NuparuFeb 26, 20175 votes

1-3 seconds if the active was instant and not on a 1.5 second channel would be nice.

As it stands, it needs a decent duration to make use of the channel since it has to be used before a fight to be useful.

FighterA236Feb 26, 201715 votes

Finally assassins can have a counterplay

Kappa.

XonraFeb 28, 20172 votes

"Reworking assassins so ..something something windows of power"

"Nevermind, here is an anti cc item so they can just go in without having to worry about dying"

Riot is really bad about contradicting themselves.

HupsisFeb 26, 201712 votes

I honestly think the problem lies in boots. Mages are forced to build item 3020 while AD assassins/bruisers can choose between all the defensive options item 3111 item 3047 item 3009 while still being able to get more out of lethality than a mage could ever get out of magic pen.

My suggestion: replace item 3142 with a lethality boot variation. Or alternatively remove sorc boots and introduce a new magic pen item.

DJMason88Feb 26, 20173 votes

Mages can also get item 3158

softest boyFeb 26, 201711 votes

But there is almost no point since CDR is already in abundance on other items.

chipndip1Feb 26, 20172 votes

It allows you to get more bursty items while maxing cdr anyway.

NineTailedMysticFeb 27, 20173 votes

Morello, Zhonya's, 10% scaling CDR runes. There's 0 point to lucidity boots unless you're reliant on a Flash initiation.

chipndip1Feb 27, 20172 votes

But you now get more MR via runes.

NipsahoyFeb 26, 201712 votes

I was playing Ezreal last night, it was late game I had like 14 kills 6 deaths 15 assists or so. Pretty well farmed. Their Nocturne would ult me and I would die the exact instant his character model reached me, couldn't even blink away before I died. My team in voice comms tried everything to save me, our nami would throw bubble on me, our malz was ready to ult, but I died literally the instant he reached me. I guess the only counter play to this lethality bullshit is to buy a GA every game. I wasn't even caught out solo we were all grouped but he can engage from half the map away and delete instantly with no reaction time. That's an embarassment to game design right there. I've put up with this lethality shit for awhile and lived with it but that last night was what convinced me that something is horribly wrong with it. Literally no counterplay except to buy an item that allowed you to die twice and unfortunately it has a long cooldown once it's popped once so you will still die multiple times with 0 counterplay once it's down. Great design.

Thanks to edge of night and his passive there was no way for our team to stop it even if we somehow could have reacted in time. The best part was that Nocturne player actually thought it took skill somehow.

TyrekGoldenspearFeb 27, 20173 votes

There is only one solution.

item 3814 Ezreal .

Prep it the second the ult happens and you'll be fine!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

######MandatoryKappa

ModAcademy KaynFeb 26, 201710 votes

Another day, another complaint post.

AhristocatsFeb 26, 201714 votes

an other day an other thread to try to open meddler's eyes

CanastusFeb 26, 20179 votes

Meddler is a monkey, what do you expect?

MoetaroFeb 26, 20178 votes

Riot should really try to hire their game designers in another zoo. It's pretty obvious that the zoo they are using to hire since early S5 has not good material.

CanastusFeb 26, 20177 votes

After Harambe died it really went downhill with the balance in this game.

PennsFeb 26, 20178 votes

More like thanks Riot for Maw #nerfmawsquad xd ######dont think he even had one but still lul

fuffychanFeb 26, 20178 votes

Ive been making threads ever since the release of hexdrinker that AD+MR items are too powerful and are not niche, theyre standard. And they just keep making MORE AND MORE of them. We all know Riot has a hard on for Zed LeeSin Yasuo

royal Joker 1Feb 26, 20177 votes

안녕 코리안

Synnx7Feb 26, 20177 votes

Damn this game went down the drain. Gg riot, you incompetent company . Hope 99.9% of the ppl will react with their wallets because fucking LC$ is all that u care about