Common misconceptions about your main

SwiftKitten88··2 votes·587 views

i am making this thread barbecue there seems to be a LOT of misconceptions about my main Nidalee

And in the interest of learning what i may have thought wrong about other people mains, i think it would be a good idea for other people to post some things that many of us may think about their mains.

so if you don't want to read this post from this point on-wards because "TLDR", then just post misconceptions about yours

one thing i have noticed is that almost every misconception people say about nidalee, WAS true at one point in time. so its not like people have bad info.. they have have very, outdated... info.

so without further ado... Nidalee Common misconceptions:

  1. Nidalee isn't an assassin False, nidalee currently IS an assassin, she has not always been so, pre-rework nidalee (aka before 4.10) nidalee was a mage, between 4.10 and 4.16 nidalee was a diver in patch 4.17 nidalee became an assassin and has has been ever since.

  2. nidalee can 1 shot squishes false, before her rework in patch 4.10 the vasty majority of her damage came from her spear. ever since her rework, the vast majority of her damage comes her cougar form takedown,

  3. nidalee can just sit back and throw spears all day false, while it is certainly POSSIBLE to reach a point with nidalee where you CAN "throw spears forever", people normally say this as if you can do this "at any point". to reach a point where you can throw spears forever you would either needs to build item 3003 (which isn't done because although the final stats would be absolutely perfect for her, nidalee is an early game champ, and if you grab item 3070 you would skip your biggest powerspike. otherise to throw spear indefinitely you would need either 2 ocean drag and a blue buff, or 3 ocean drag. (just a plain blue with 1 ocean is not even unless you also go back to the jungle to proc item 1410 in which cause you left the fight.

  4. nidalee has never been balanced false, nidalee WAS balanced between patches 4.17 and 5.1 (this was about a 6 month period of time) yes it is true that nidalee has never been very balanced "in the jungle", but she HAS been balanced. and during 4.17 to 5.1 she had approx 50% winrate in top, and mid and about a 48% winrate in support at ALL ELOS

  5. nidalee has always been a jungler. false. nidalee became a jungler in patch 5.2, at which time she still could do her other roles (top mid and support) it wasn't until nerfs starting hitting her to make her weaker in the jungle that her other lanes became unplayable.

  6. nidalee was reworked into a jungler again false, nidalee was reworked in patch 4.10 as with every major rework small tweaking was done afterwards her last tweak was at 4.17 at which point she became "balanced" it wasn't until 5.2 (an entire season after her rework) that riot made her a jungler.

  7. nidalee can win any 1v1 false. and this really is the only reason that i i have seen that pretty much has zero basis in truth. nidalee cannot 1v1 anything, there was a small window between patch 4.10 and 4.17 where nidalee pretty much had no counters as a top laner, but that was fixed in 4.17. as long as she has been in the jungle she has NEVER been able to "1v1" anything. yes there have been many points where she could either 1v1 you OR get away, meaning you couldnt really kill her, but at the same time, you can force her away from things with a large number of champions.

  8. nidalee has a 54% winrate and is op. false.. nidalee HAD a 54% winrate during the worlds patch or 6.18, but ONLY in diamond + the same patch her bronze winrate was 46% her silver winrate was 48%, her gold was 49%, and her plat was 51%

  9. nidalee has not been nerf since worlds flase..um idk where you were in patch 6.21 but, anyways.. also 6.22 had a MUCH bigger nerf to nid than even 6.21 did which bring us to number 10

  10. nidalee was NOT nerf in 6.22 false, while her champ has no changes specific to it, strength of the ages was removed. this mastery was the ONLY viable mastery for her, in fact the i think 12% of nidalee that DID use thunderlords, has a drumroll plz 42% win rate. which guess what? is EXACTLY her winrate after strength of the ages was removed.

i mean WOW what a concept..

champion has 48% win rate with strength of the ages in patch 6.21 champions has 42% win rate with thunderlords in patch 6.21

patch 6.22 removed strength of the ages (all nidalee are force to go thunderlords) champion has a 42% winrate in patch 6.22 with thunderlords

i mean WOW guys.. didn't take a freaking genius to see that coming now did it?

... anyways that is it for nidalee

i hope you learned at least _something _about her.

and reminder, this thread is NOT "only" "about nidalee", yes i made it to explains misconceptions about her. but i ALSO made it so i can learn (and others can learn) about the champ we do not play and might think are "op" or hard to face. or frankly just stuff that epople say about your champ that just isnt true. i want to hear it, because even if no other person besides myself learns anything about your champ, that is enough for me.

20 Comments

Succubús GF6 votes

Literally nobody cares .-.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

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Literally nobody cares .-.

this

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

I care.

And that's enough reason for the OP to post this.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Aatrox: he exists

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Aatrox: he exists

This is supposed to be _mis_conceptions :P

GULAG 4 U1 votes

it is a misconception

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Brand

He isn't instant freelo bottom lane as support. He's screwed if you have heavy engage because he has little to no peel for himself, let alone his carry.

He won't penta your team just because you're grouped up and he hits R. If he's lucky he will get the explosion on one of you, big deal, He has to prep with W and E then launch R to be able to get it on all 5, but he has to be very close and it is deadly for him to be that close to the action, so pentas in teamfights aren't as simple as people think.

He won't deny you farm all day because he will chew through mana too fast, and the second he uses E to harass, have your jungler eat him, as he loses access to his stun.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Brand

He isn't instant freelo bottom lane as support. He's screwed if you have heavy engage because he has little to no peel for himself, let alone his carry.

He won't penta your team just because you're grouped up and he hits R. If he's lucky he will get the explosion on one of you, big deal, He has to prep with W and E then launch R to be able to get it on all 5, but he has to be very close and it is deadly for him to be that close to the action, so pentas in teamfights aren't as simple as people think.

He won't deny you farm all day because he will chew through mana too fast, and the second he uses E to harass, have your jungler eat him, as he loses access to his stun.

syndra actually has the same thing, as soon as she uses her "E" she is literally a sitting duck. and stupid easy to gank.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Exactly! People who think certain champs are freelo really should try them for themselves against competent opponents, then they'll realize they aren't so easy.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Exactly! People who think certain champs are freelo really should try them for themselves against competent opponents, then they'll realize they aren't so easy.

actually as a Nidalee main. my hardest counter in the game is Diana, who interestingly enough has a VERY similar mechanic to nidalee with her ulti. could be coincidence, could have something to do WHY she counter nid so freaking hard, idk. eventually i tried her out during a diana free week, and wow.. i mean, i still know she CAN do certain things that i would call OP.. but it only took one bot game with her realize.. she isn't easy to play..

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Exactly. :)

Just feel good about the fact that when people say that Nid is "no skill" or "faceroll."

It means you play her so well that you make it look easy.

They will think she's easy until they try to jungle with her and end up getting executed in their own jungle multiple times.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Exactly. :)

Just feel good about the fact that when people say that Nid is "no skill" or "faceroll."

It means you play her so well that you make it look easy.

They will think she's easy until they try to jungle with her and end up getting executed in their own jungle multiple times.

ironically her clear is to lvl 4 safer in 6.22 than it was in 6.21, the gromp change made it a LOT easier for her to kill him. the difference i now a clear to lvl 4 isn't a full clear anymore. and because the removal of strength of the ages, a large amount of the gank scenarios you would have previously go a kill on by doing... now get you killed... so you either dont gank as much.. or you die

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Brand

He isn't instant freelo bottom lane as support. He's screwed if you have heavy engage because he has little to no peel for himself, let alone his carry.

He won't penta your team just because you're grouped up and he hits R. If he's lucky he will get the explosion on one of you, big deal, He has to prep with W and E then launch R to be able to get it on all 5, but he has to be very close and it is deadly for him to be that close to the action, so pentas in teamfights aren't as simple as people think.

He won't deny you farm all day because he will chew through mana too fast, and the second he uses E to harass, have your jungler eat him, as he loses access to his stun.

Brand

He will oneshot you even with only minions to bounce R off.

He will be tankier than you and stun you if you try to jump on him, and oneshot you.

That's really it tbh.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Don't be absurd.

I need my full combo to proc my three hit passive.

He will threeshot you. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Thrëat1 votes

Nocturne His ultimate is not Global. It doesn't even have much range until level 3. It gets old to hear someone say "Oh I thought you were going to ult my lane because I saw you coming this direction so we all inned and died" when I'm literally half way accross the map of the lane that died.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Nocturne His ultimate is not Global. It doesn't even have much range until level 3. It gets old to hear someone say "Oh I thought you were going to ult my lane because I saw you coming this direction so we all inned and died" when I'm literally half way accross the map of the lane that died.

well to be fair, they probably didnt know where you were, (becuase the only people who say that kind of stuff pretty much never ward or look at the map to begin with) and they obviously cant see where you ultied to.

i never thought he had a global ulti, in how far he could go. but the fact that it gives global "darkness" on the map, really does affect more than the lane you are ganking, so i can see a a certain argument for calling ti a global.

one of my FAVORITE things to do when playing RekSai , is to look at the other players when i use my ulti. it is REALLY entertaining to see how they react to the noise. some people completely ignore it, some people just immediately stop and stand still for like and entire second. and some people just instantly run back towards base until they see where i ended up

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

His ultimate is not Global.

Okay I actually didn't know that. Good to know.

Oglaf1 votes

Braum "The heart is the strongest muscle!"

No sorry, Braum it is not...

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bad arcade kitty1 votes

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Braum "The heart is the strongest muscle!"

No sorry, Braum it is not...

item 3070Braum item 3070

Ahri: sure thing! the strongest it's the butt muscle also known as gluteus maximus. butt is stronger than your silly heart! :3

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Kayle Is a busted champion. Utter bullshit. Truth is totally the opposite. She's bad early game, terrible mid game and kinda strong late game. She only seems busted when your team is all squishy and she can penta from E and a handful of right clicks. And she cannot carry while being slightly behind or equal to everyone else like truly busted champs such as Jayce, Yasuo, Syndra, Leblanc. Kayle absolutely must have a significant lead otherwise she's not doing all the busted shit people complain about. Yasuo can go 0-5 in lane and still carry from mid game. Kayle isn't even remotely capable of that outside of Bronze 5 where you can farm up a lead due to how horrible everyone there is at farming.

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