Make Quinn not so oppressive vs melee champions so we can actually give her meaningful buffs

FalconPawwwwnch·Oct 13, 2016·3 votes·358 views

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RalanrOct 13, 20162 votes

How would you do that though? What would you nerf and what can you buff so not to make the nerfs pointless?

FalconPawwwwnchOct 13, 20161 votes

nerf the shit out of her level 1 base AD

Give her 25 more range

make AD catchup by level 18

Give her better ad ratios

Nerf cooldown of her disengage

RalanrOct 13, 20162 votes

Wait, why more range? That'd make it easier for her to harass.

AnonagonOct 13, 20161 votes

I think the idea behind a range buff is to make it so she does better in Bot and/or Mid lane, so she's less encouraged to go top. She has 525 range, while 550 is "standard" for ADCs. Its always been a common suggestion for her, but some people (myself included) argued against it because we thought her having short range was part of her identity.

ProfDrDeathOct 13, 20161 votes

Increase her Harrier, Q and E cooldowns by 1-2 seconds each. Add a passive to her ult that reduces the base cooldowns of Harrier, Q and E by 0/1/2 (if increased by 1 second) or 1/2/3 seconds (if increased by 2 seconds).

Basically, letting her ult be a bit more of a power spike than it is currently - my take on the problem as a main is that her early laning strength is a bit too powerful, due to her base skills' direct combat power being elevated to make up for the lack of real combat power of her ultimate.

ViiLLAiNOct 13, 20161 votes

i think her blind is dumb and should be removed

ZoeeeeOct 13, 20161 votes

AnonagonOct 13, 20161 votes

If you want to hit Quinn's early bullying but keep her intact (or even better) for the mid/lategame, there's a number of potential changes that could work

Q Debuff is currently 1.5 seconds at all ranks. A scaling 1-2 seconds (or even 1-1.5 if it needs a straight nerf) would help. Reduce Harrier base damage Change E range from 675/525 to 700/500 [max cast range/kickoff distance] This both makes her easier to gapclose on and makes E more potent as a gapcloser