Who is the most "healthy" ADC?

Diamond Frostman·2/16/2016, 2:51:48 PM·2 votes·952 views

Who do you think should be the benchmark that Riot balance the class around? Like they said about LeeSin in the past, about how the jungle role was balanced around him because he is considered healthy.

Personally, I believe that Twitch is a good example. He has an AOE skillshot that is critical to his damage, allowing for the enemy to outplay or avoid it and the nature of his kit relies on you killing the target, either he kills or he dies and that seems like a good design for an ADC. I think that Jinx is another good example of this as she has no natural mobility and requires positional awareness, unlike Vayne who can breakdance on the floor every few seconds.

It does seem to me like mobility is kinda ruining the class and future ADC's should have LESS mobility, not more.

Jhin is good and balanced in terms of mobility (Personally, I don't like his kit because I feel he's taking away a long range skillshot mage's job) Kalista is not

22 Comments

disregardable2/16/2016, 3:15:27 PM2 votes

You're level 22. You know nothing about balance.

Twitch is NOT a suitable balance goal- his whole kit is designed around succeeding through a lack of counterplay. Jinx is played less and less every patch. Jhin is barely viable right now, he may even need a buff. Vayne is the most mechanically intensive, "positionally aware" ADC there is.

Kalista...I'm too biased to comment. I'm just trash at her, but watching her in the LCS I know she can't be buffed. It just hurts that everyone thinks she's OP when she really takes a lot of skill to play effectively.

Most balanced ADC is probably Ashe. She has counterplay and strengths. Her power curve is on point. She has unique reasons to bring her. Good champion. After the Ezreal nerfs, I imagine he'll be in a similar place.

Raka Flaka MD2/16/2016, 2:57:59 PM2 votes

Urgot.

Lugg2/16/2016, 4:10:48 PM2 votes

Ashe hands down. She can do great sustained damage and carry games but has actual exploitable weaknesses.

As for your examples, Lee Sin has NEVER been balanced. He has always been a 7 or higher on the power scale. The only times where he hasn't been always played is when there are several junglers ranked 8 or higher.

Twitch is a pretty good example since he is pretty weak early game and can hard carry late. His stealth (as any in game) is pretty toxic though.

Jinx is in the same place as Lee Sin. Never been balanced. Her only weakness, mobility is pretty much totally negated by her Chompers and passive.

Jhin will be getting major nerfs once people figure out how to use him properly. He is safe due to his traps and extreme long range.

Kalista needs a COMPLETE rework at this point. Easily the most toxic ADC in the game.

Faith Breaker2/16/2016, 4:33:48 PM1 votes

Twitch has an AoE skill shot that is critical to his damage?

z14GaKI7TO2/16/2016, 4:54:50 PM1 votes

ADCs can't afford to have less mobility with champions like Rengar in the game lol

God of Bagels2/16/2016, 6:16:13 PM1 votes

Corki

Athenes Lulu2/17/2016, 7:07:08 AM1 votes

Somewhere along the lines of Ashe and Caitlyn.

Both have clear and defined weaknesses, and that their such weaknesses can be "avoided" by playing well and/or use proper communication with her teammates.

Anyone saying either of them is shit are people who has never played with or even seen their true potentials.

Twitch does fall along the same line as they do, but has a much higher skill floor. In his current state it's difficult for him to work with non-tanks, while as Ashe or Cait it is actually not as hard.

Mael bro2/16/2016, 2:57:00 PM1 votes

"Permakiting is healthy and has counterplay." Vayne Kindred Kalista Said no one ever.

Nekusen2/17/2016, 9:56:24 PM1 votes

Varus for sure

TekkenPlayer2/16/2016, 3:58:09 PM1 votes

The most healthy ADC is caitlyn. It's not easy to kite as her as other ADCs and she does still fall off if she somehow loses lane, but her damage is quite reasonable but no where near vayne, jinx, or kog type of DPS.

SnugglePuggle942/16/2016, 4:17:55 PM1 votes

Ashe and Jinx are pretty healthy, although they are much more risky in their safety than say Sivir, who has her spell shield and her movement speed buff ultimate. Though her damage is pretty low tier, but she is getting help this next patch by her W being able to crit.