Can we agree that some champions was just bad design and that riot actually failled?

Giggling Granny··1 votes·391 views

Azir Ivern Kalista Ryze This ones here is the biggest riot fail ever!...i just wonder if they have PBE or not to test things...

Camille Hecarim Leblanc Rengar Taliyah Yasuo This ones here are champions that riot nerf them again and again and again and again and they are toxic to play against or they are complete useless...which again make you wonder do they even test champions?

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ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Your title is correct. However 7/10 of those champs were designed well, and perform to how they are supposed to (this is not a comment on balance)

koshkyra1 votes

Im gonna guess that the 3/10 were

Yasuo Leblanc (my main) and Rengar

Am i right?

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Ryze, Rengar, Lb

Ryze bc of all his reworks, Rengar and Leblanc bc of recent updates.

koshkyra1 votes

Completely agreed.

MorinoZannen1 votes

see? ppl even forgot aatrox is a champ

Riven gets hazy1 votes

What is Aatrox? Is that a drug? I'm confused. Help! kappa Aatrox

robotmaster1 votes

I completely disagree with you but ok.

LyingOnLine1 votes

Even Riot admits that Riot has failed before and will continue to fail occasionally.

That doesn't mean that they can't keep improving.

Giggling Granny1 votes

the problem is that the fail design are new champions! that the problem

LyingOnLine1 votes

Every champion is a new champion at some point.

sneasel591 votes

7/10 aren't a fail at all! (In my opinion) Ivern is a good jungler,he had been ever since he came out,he just has a unique play style.Ryze,,,I would say Yes he was kinda a fail,Riot reworking him How many times? And Kalista ADC has i believe the highest Win rate right now.Its not riots fault that players who play those champs are Toxic! Azir isn't that bad,he is just difficult to play and almost impossible to Master,he is getting a rework pretty soon :D (I used to main azir at the beginning of season 7 so I'm happy :D). So most of these champs aren't fails at all,and work well and like there supposed to,Most of the champs to listed are Hard to master and learn.so only 2 of the 10 you listed are fails.but Riot keeps improving and marking the game fair and fun,

Giggling Granny1 votes

Ivern was a bad design that make him stupid OP and riot needed to nerf him 6 times in the row...that a bad design!!

Ryze?? lets go for the 4 rework? GG

Kalista design is BAD and her passive should have never exist in this game...its not about win ratio..kalista was broken..if she come back then she would get nerfed again...back to 40% win ratio simple because her kit is so toxic that it should never be good SAME AS AZIR

So that why riot gut them down to 40% win ratio because their kit was str8 up broken with 0 counterplay

So that mean that it was a massive fail design

BIue Monk1 votes

Well, they probably consider Yasuo as their best idea. Meanwhile, most of my friends just stopped the game just from this champ.

LethalTempo Jhin1 votes

I disagree about Ryze (this version).

He needs his E nerf from 7.5 (which made his cooldown scale with levels, which turned his laning into "laning") reverted.

And go from there. I think he is salvageable.

I don't really care commenting about the rest.

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