One more Patch goes off without broken stuff being nerfed

Giggling Granny··19 votes·1,157 views

Chogath Gragas Draven Zac

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I guess we should wait till after worlds?? so we can play ranked games without being forced to ban cho or zac or draven or gragas other wise oh well enjoy the win who ever get them?

Plus theones that need fix/nerfs

Janna Thresh Akali Pantheon Vayne

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Edit Vayne Q is getting nerfed no longer can crit (and the double W is bug confirmed by a rioter) she get some other stuff which are stupid but seeing the backlash probably they are gonna be reduced

Draven is going to get nerfed confirmed

Janna is getting nerfed

we are on a good road

38 Comments

DunkinNoobs7 votes

OP still thinks Zac is broken rofl.

He also thinks Vayne is broken ROFL.

Giggling Granny8 votes

pick ban and platinum + you tell me...banned in LCS matches...i guess you know better than the LCS players yeah lets ROLF on the pro and challenger players....

And read the post before you talk Vayne need fix teh fact that she can Q crit you for 80% of your health its not balanced...

DunkinNoobs2 votes

He's not pick or ban in plat+ anymore numbnuts. Anyone who reads patch notes stopped banning him already.

Giggling Granny2 votes

Champion Ban ratio per game 1 Zac 56.54%

You were saying? oh that right math prove you wrong go cry now

CamilleRule341 votes

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Champion Ban ratio per game 1 Zac 56.54%

You were saying? oh that right math prove you wrong go cry now

You're the one whining about shit being broken lol.

DunkinNoobs2 votes

Looks like lots of people don't reach patch notes, just like you.

BiH Fear2 votes

Zac IS broken and this is coming from a Diamond jungle main

53436278DEL14 votes

i dont see a problem with death dance but i could be biased because its one of my favorite items to make aatrox sick

Kynin1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Desolated Mace,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=caNMtrKy,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-08-08T22:22:31.430+0000)

i dont see a problem with death dance but i could be biased because its one of my favorite items to make aatrox sick

The item isn't an issue. Just a few champions that abuse it especially Fiora (who is guttted) and Draven.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

fiora= gutted? Yeah sure buddy.

CamilleRule342 votes

Akali is like, B list mid and C list top wtf lol,

Bańg2 votes

w-what.

shes A list right now if you actually play her.

shes beyond busted LMAO.

Giggling Granny4 votes

yeah she is useless that why she is abused by every high elo player..

CamilleRule342 votes

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yeah she is useless that why she is abused by every high elo player..

Source? Because youre just talking out your ass.

Giggling Granny2 votes

http://www.op.gg/champion/akali/statistics/top

Stop posting what make you feel better....and now go cry

BobaFlautist2 votes

Cinderhulk was nerfed, that affects all jungle tanks.

It wasn't a huge nerf, but it does slow them down a little.

CamilleRule342 votes

https://rankedboost.com/mid-lane-tier-list/

Nah dude Akali is shit rn in mid because 80% of the people that fight her harass her out of lane with poke and wave clear (Which she has no wave clear and her poke is a joke) the only advantage she could have against most mages is the ability to jump on them but even thats telegraphed and easy to combat. She only has 1 direction that she can go so using your spells to counter her assault is easy.

BiH Fear2 votes

Why are you complaining? It does nothing. Riot does this on purpose. Their balance team is full of low elo and bad players, but they're not idiots. It's not hard to tell these things are busted and anti fun.

The reason they won't do anything about them is because of $$. IF the meta was the same always then a lot of these meta slaves (there are a shit ton of them) would never bother playing champs like Sejuani which is braindead and boring. So what does riot do? They make certain champs overtuned on purpose so they become meta for 2-4 patches so more people pick them up and hopefully buy some skins. They purposely change the meta. No point in bitching about it. People are too stupid or blind to see it.

nice table2 votes

zac and gragas really aren't problematic in soloQ though

Wet Dryman1 votes

Gragas is in high elo, dude has over 18% pick rate there. Besides as a Gragas main I can tell you that he is busted atm, I don't know how the hell he has that low win rate for the things he can do.

nice table1 votes

he has the same pick rate as kayn and lucian who are both bad, his win ratio is bad and his mostly played cause "hehexd lcs doe"

Karn Bishop2 votes

riots got you covered on the vayne portion, this just hit pbe today.

Vayne

   Tumble (Q):
   Auto applies two stacks of W
   Bonus damage no longer crits.
   Silver Bolts (W):
   Bonus True Damage increased from 6/7.5/9/10.5/12% to 6/8/10/12/14%
   Minimum Damage changed from 40/60/80/100/120 to 50/65/80/95/110
   Final Hour (R):
   New Effect: "While under the effects of Final Hours, Vayne is revitalized when enemy champions she has damaged recently are killed, healing for 20% of their maximum health"

they must want her to be perma banned or something......

Spoofghoul2 votes

Either a bronze rioter on the balance team lost again with vayne

or they want her to be permaban in order to gut her and then rework her

or perhaps some riot yasuo main on the balance team has lost it and is making everything broken to the point where 10 bans have to be spend on things that aren't yasuo

Giggling Granny2 votes

his Q dosent proc 2 stacks of W its a bug! its str8 up nerf to his Q removing the crit part

Now about the rest of the buff probably thety are gonna be reduced a bit seeing how much people dont like that

Wet Dryman1 votes

Statistically Gragas has pretty low ban rate, his win rate isn't high too to be actual free win, only the popularity is out of hand though I agree that he needs nerf. Zac on the other hand is in OK spot after his last nerf (to be honest he is underpowered but he deserves it for being such a bad design) no need for further nerfs.

flyingbaklava3 votes

Zac has a 46% winrate, hes not ok, hes gutted. He needs a revert, badly.

Wet Dryman1 votes

I don't disagree, in my comment I wanted to say that those stats are OK for the kit he has currently. Champion can't have damage, CC, tankiness, lack of counterplay all at the same time and have decent winrate.

Nahui1 votes

I'm okay with dusk blade. Gives assassins a chance to actually kill something in team fights without calculating a giant 7-step plan before hand and hoping no one exhausts.

Cloud2731 votes

Gragas and Vayne are fine. Agree with the rest though.

Bańg1 votes

gragas is busted and needs his stats nerfed

CamilleRule341 votes

http://www.op.gg/champion/akali/statistics/mid/trend According to this her pick rate is only 1 percent dude which is not "every high elo player" and 51% isnt exactly broken lol

ZephyrDrake1 votes

wow people are still bitching about Vayne to this day?

Final Spark Lux1 votes

Suddenly ardent OP? lol. If its as strong as you claim, why dont you just build one for your team to even the playing field

The Bardic Gay3 votes

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Suddenly ardent OP? lol. If its as strong as you claim, why dont you just build one for your team to even the playing field

People are literally foregoing sightstone for ardent rush, the item is fucking bonkers, especially in conjuction with ancient coin's retarded gold generation.

Final Spark Lux1 votes

The only time people are going to do that is if your jg is trash and you don't know how to punish a support for building no wards / no defenses in lieu of that item. Until it's finished, one item gives some mana regen, 10% CDR and 8% shield/heal power, and the other gives a small amount of MS with 30 AP. Coin is usually used on someone whos either not poking or passive, regardless of which, you should punish them when they walk up to get their coins. No game in decent elo will have someone do this unless they've already snowballed their lane, in which case you're screwed anyways regardless of the enemy support having an ardent censer

PePsiLemoNN1 votes

Cinderhulk , Orianna Caitlyn Maokai Cassiopeia item 3301 , you were saying? If you are biased and think something is broken that doesn't mean it is ;) . They nerfed actual strong champs/items , they won't nerf fucking Pantheon only cuz ''doh he's annoying''

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