Cassiopea rework hidden nerfs....

xxxMadLionxxx·May 4, 2016·6 votes·566 views

Everyone is so happy with the new Cass that they are not seeing what they lost on the old one.

Here is a quick breakdown.

Her E burns mana and does no damage if target is not poisoned. It no requires CDR to get it to 0.5 cooldown. That means she lost a lot of her early game damage in lane. She no longer gets free ap and cdr and it takes longer to get six items than it was to stack her old passive. She no longer get 15 magic pen from boots leading to less power early game again.

All of this so she can have a fancy new W that is still hard to land.

5 Comments

WoonStruckMay 4, 20163 votes

Vlad and Anivia got blatant nerfs. You should consider Cass lucky.

She no longer gets a free laning phase when she's anywhere near a decent state. That's a good thing.

Her old passive was trash. Her ratios and CDs were higher to compensate for the free CDR and AP she got. If anything you should be talking relative to Cass prior to that rework.

Not getting magic pen from boots is not a nerf because she can get Haunting Guise for nearly the same cost, but also AP and HP. Not to mention how much more slot-efficient it is.

UminagaMay 4, 20163 votes

I'm a long time cass player since season 2. I usually play her in almost all lanes except jungle. I've been seeing the progress of her and I kept an opened mind. Hoping for the better even. I played her right now and I just feel frustrated.

Passive - No boots? in trade of of her old passive. Really unfulfilling. It was nice trying to get stacks for something.

Her Q takes up so much mana. Cass I felt was a good alternative for champs that are able to use Q like syndra and karthus where they would have to aim a certain spot to do damage.

I take for granted her W, yeah it kind of sucked but it had utility. W doesn't even go over walls or show vision anymore. Which I found kind of irritating, if I wanted to check if someone was there or if I wanted to farm jungle over the wall. And the cool down on it is ridiculous. Also minions get stuck on it. I like the idea that it blocks dashes but perhaps just make it 3 Aoe circles that can go over walls, instead of 5 Aoe circles and cant go over walls.

E omg the most frustrating thing if your not a cass player. You would think 1 second wouldn't be to bad, but the flow just feels so unfulfilling. Not having the refresh on E makes me feel clunky. And the damage output just feels unconsistent especially when the target isn't poisoned. Theres a big difference. Cool it heals and gives mana but its just to micro managing now.

R is fine.

That's just my take on Cass right now. Probably alot of people didn't play her because of her skill capp, or how she plays but I found she had a niche that fulfilled people who did like her fast pace kit.

ŠeraρhMay 4, 20162 votes

Her passive is basically a "you've got free boots, now buy something else" and quite honestly, that's something I've really often dreamt to do on several champions, so kudos to Riot. And yes, her E does no damage when the ennemy isn't poisoned, but at least now, you're not punished with a 5 seconds downtime just because you wanted to last hit with it, or because you threw that one more E that was too much during a trade. I'd say it's way better now. Plus, having it on a 0.9 seconds CD actually makes CDR useful on her rather than being kinda wasted. Even just on paper, even I like it, and I'm the skeptical type of person, so there's that.

Meep ManMay 4, 20162 votes

Yeah, except now if you attack someone who isn't poisoned with E, it still gets CDR reduction. Plus her Q was buffed.

Mahou LuluMay 4, 20161 votes

Cassiopeia essentially went back to her pre-rework state (stronger Q, no scaling passive) and kept her QoL changes while gaining a new cc mechanic. This makes her so much easier to tune. Her new E is also much nicer because if you E something that isn't poisoned you're no longer a useless sitting duck. Sure, it does less damage and has the same mana cost, but you can cast another shortly after without consequence.

Also, her E now scales downward with CDR, which is important because most AP items now have CDR. It doesn't feel useless anymore.