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Xayah's passive

only zhule··1 votes·2,098 views

So i have questions here:

First, and i could be wrong here, but didn't this ability use to have an ammo system that all players could see? like i could SWEAR that a day or two after release i played against / with a Xayah and i could see an ammo system under her health bar for how many feathers she could use that would go through targets.

Second the passive is worded REALLY weirdly. After casting a spell her next three attacks pierce their targets, i get this, but it also comments about her being able to store up to 5 empowered attacks. Is clean cuts considered an empowered attack, if so at what levels does the number of feathers she can throw increase? Or is this saying that she gets 3 cuts with an ability, then can use another ability to store another 3, with a max holding of 5?

Finally could we make it a little more clear when she has her passive up and when she doesn't. I have had a few points where i don't see her cast jack all and suddenly he attacks are cutting through the minion wave. Often at this point i'm not staring right at her, trying to not get hit and all, so i don't know if she auto's twice - three times then casts a second (non feather recall ability) for even more clean cuts.... Anyway, it just feels very unclear currently when this champion has her passive up, how many charges she has left on it, etc...

6 Comments

UnboundHades2 votes

If you aren't seeing the ammo system then your game could be bugged I've been having a problem with invisible spell cast so that could be why she was able to get her passive off without you seeing her cast q w or e

Darkdemon6532 votes

Her feathers are visible to everyone.

I'm not sure how they can make it more clear. She gets three feathers for each ability she casts and can hold 5. If she has 0 and casts an ability, she goes to 3. If she has 1 and casts an ability, she goes to 4. If she has 2 or more and casts and ability, she goes to 5.

Her passive is just as clear as Graves' ammo - they appear as big, pink/purple feathers underneath her mana bar. I'm not sure how they can make it more clear without it becoming obnoxious.

only zhule1 votes

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Her feathers are visible to everyone.

I'm not sure how they can make it more clear. She gets three feathers for each ability she casts and can hold 5. If she has 0 and casts an ability, she goes to 3. If she has 1 and casts an ability, she goes to 4. If she has 2 or more and casts and ability, she goes to 5.

Her passive is just as clear as Graves' ammo - they appear as big, pink/purple feathers underneath her mana bar. I'm not sure how they can make it more clear without it becoming obnoxious.

Perhaps i'm having a visual glitch. But it also wouldn't surprise me if the feather charges were only visible to allies. The wording on the passive is weird to me because when i think "empowered attack" i think bonus damage on hit not a piercing strike. The wording could be altered slightly to say "can hold a max of 5 feathers". Again it might be a visual bug on my end, but i think currently if you are playing against Xayah you can't see how many charges she is holding.

Hige1 votes

1.- yes she does have an indicator for how many feathers, haven't really seen her all that much but I believe it's only visible for allies? not sure though

2.- Her passive is pretty unique from every charge system in the game, she can store an infinite amount of feathers, as long as she can casts skills (Urf Xayah is probably pretty crazy)

3.- honestly it doesn't matter much, she has so many available that you might as well simply assume she's always holding some since I don't think that using skills to store feathers is a good idea, you can literally acquire them all in an instant and if I'm not mistaken they decay separately, like if you use your Q you have 3 feathers for 8(?) seconds and if you use your W when you have 1 second left, the new ones don't refresh the duration of the old ones, the old ones expire after 1 second and now you have only 3...

DemainaNyx1 votes

1: Yes, she does have an ammo system. Not sure if you can see it if you are against her, but if you are playing as her, you will see the feathers under your health bar. If not it may be a graphical glitch.

2: What this basically means is she is capped at how many feathers she gets. If you just press QWE, you "should" get 3 feathers from Q, 3 feathers from W, and 3 feathers from E, but since she is capped, you will only get 5 feathers and the other 4 are wasted.

To maximize the number of feathers she can have then, you need to auto attack in between abilities to use charges. If you Q, auto, and W, you will have 3 feathers from Q, use one feather with your auto, and then get 3 feathers from W. That means 1 feather is on the ground somewhere and you have 5 sitting in your ammo slot waiting for you to use. So, ideally, if you wanted to ult afterward, to get the maximum feathers you should auto 3 more times before ulting, Again, this is in an ideal world, sometimes this isn't possible so you will probably waste some feathers.

She's like Lucian or Riven, you want to be weaving autos in between abilities to maximize damage.

3: She can hold her charges for about 8 seconds after casting an ability (based on my testing, not sure what the exact number is). If she uses another ability, it refreshes the timer for all charges. So, if you use Q, you could auto once, wait 6 seconds, and then use W to reset the timer and engage. Now, this means you only have 8 seconds to get those 5 feathers out, but still.

Vexed Hex1 votes

If you are playing her you can see how many feathers you have. Enemies can not see this. If they could she would be even weaker than she already is. She gets three feathers per ability use and can store a max of five feathers. So you use an ability then auto then another ability if you want to maximize your feathers. And no she can not increase the amount she can carry. Also NO they cant make it any more clearer, its already easy enough to avoid her feathers.

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