The two best AP items right now (RoA and Abyssal) are both OP right now and if we buffed other AP items, it'd be overbearing. Just thought I'd share my two cents and why Riot chooses not to buff AP items. If they were to tweak stats on AP toys, they'd weaken these two for sure.
Illiad1 votes
much ap
Beldair1 votesSo true....now if we can just get more better cdr items i'd be a super happy mage.
Kanzaki Ranko1 votes[{quoted}](name=Tetsu Juan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yhL8iFdg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-01T22:36:47.129+0000)
ROA needs to be nerfed. It gives (120 AP I think?) when fully stacked with all these other amazing defensive stats when the others just offer one.
Beldair1 votesIf i remember correctly...it is around 120 AP when fully stacked plus the massive hp and mana increase (A cho's favorite item XD).
You add in Seraph's Embrace and Rabbadon's and you have plenty of AP to destroy even a pure MR Galio.
The weak side to those items is only the cost but yea....kinda need to keep that cost or Mages would be OP way to early.
Kanzaki Ranko1 votesIf i remember correctly...it is around 120 AP when fully stacked plus the massive hp and mana increase (A cho's favorite item XD).
You add in Seraph's Embrace and Rabbadon's and you have plenty of AP to destroy even a pure MR Galio.
The weak side to those items is only the cost but yea....kinda need to keep that cost or Mages would be OP way to early.
I'm up for making AP items stronger overall but it'd be at the cost of ROA and Abyssal obviously. IMagine a fucking Veigar with current RoA and buffed AP items. lmao
Beldair1 votesDear lord no lol.
Yea, perhaps nerfing ROA some (not too much though) and buffing the other items would work.
Atm, i'm ok with some AP items (morellinomicon for instance) but i hold hy my statement that more CDR items need to be available that do offer better stats.
Darkwind1 votesThose three together give about 500 AP. Assuming your champion had a mana pool of 0 before the seraph/roa added to it. So more like 525-550 depending on your champion and what point in the game it is.
Sohleks1 votesRoA is just amazing... Too amazing. It has a load of every stat that is essential. Health/Mana/AP. Also in the highest amount... It eliminates mana concern entirely and also provides health to make durable 2 item effective life builds. Go ahead. Build it on about any AP champion. The way I see it though we have RoA as a necessary evil against the AD bruiser itemization of this season. The game is in an arms race of beef * brawn whatever your class. Paper does not belong.
Abyssal is my favorite AP item. But by virtue of escaping preseason AP "rebalancing" it's one of the best ap items. Be careful with this one. It's an awesome rush item, partly due to flat pen and a 2350g price tag, but due to flat pen and a 2350g price tag this item does not belong in your late game build. So please sell it for rylias or something then. Perhaps only a tiny tiny nerf is only needed to keep it viable without deleting it.
Kanzaki Ranko1 votesRoA is just amazing... Too amazing. It has a load of every stat that is essential. Health/Mana/AP. Also in the highest amount... It eliminates mana concern entirely and also provides health to make durable 2 item effective life builds. Go ahead. Build it on about any AP champion. The way I see it though we have RoA as a necessary evil against the AD bruiser itemization of this season. The game is in an arms race of beef * brawn whatever your class. Paper does not belong.
Abyssal is my favorite AP item. But by virtue of escaping preseason AP "rebalancing" it's one of the best ap items. Be careful with this one. It's an awesome rush item, partly due to flat pen and a 2350g price tag, but due to flat pen and a 2350g price tag this item does not belong in your late game build. So please sell it for rylias or something then. Perhaps only a tiny tiny nerf is only needed to keep it viable without deleting it.
I think the abyssal rework should come back lol it's toxic imo
Sohleks1 votesI understand actually. It forces MR buys. AP assassins love it 
Kanzaki Ranko1 votesI understand actually. It forces MR buys. AP assassins love it
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EcchiOtakuTM1 votesThe only buff ap items need is lowering the prices by 100-300g (Unique price drop per ap item) aside from that they're fine.
Casri1 votesIf RoA was weaker, quite a lot of mages would be struggling. It's so all-encompassing, you can't really go wrong with RoA. It gives mages much-needed survivability vs all the full-damage teams in the game right now.
Abyssal tends to create a dichotomy as it exists currently. AP assassins will build it vs mages, so that usually necessitates that those mages (if abyssal is viable on them) also build the item to counter the stat-check, otherwise RoA is your best option for survivability.
On another note, Lich Bane is another item which received no nerfs/price reductions and actually gained more movespeed and CDR. Athene's and Morellonomicon both became 100g cheaper. Void Staff will always be strong, unless it gets reworked like Last Whisper.
The only AP item I see complaints about is 
and usually relative to 
, and I see those complaints as justified- Armguard gives no active component like Hexdrinker does with the shield. Not to mention AD champs also have access to Mercurial Scimitar, while there is only one dedicated AP/Armour item.
Besides, not every mage is interested in RoA/Abyssal 
, to name a few.