99 LP feels really shitty to have

Kanzaki Ranko·Sep 27, 2016·61 votes·3,658 views

like really really shitty

just thought I'd put this out there

37 Comments

CarameI FrappeSep 27, 20169 votes

Yea ... I feel like if you hit 98-99, you should automatically be put into promos. I hate the idea of having to play for 40+ minutes just to gain 1 LP to enter promos. I mean, if you get a 99 on your test, that's still an A+ and you pass right? Then again two different things (I know).

Riot needs to do something about this. I've got a job, and I want to climb. Don't tease me waving 1 LP in my face saying "Hahahaha yea you're one short from promos pal!" like god...

AVL PrinceSep 27, 201622 votes

You're not rly solving the problem tho, you're just moving it. Instead of 99 LP feeling shitty it would not be 97 LP that makes people pull their hair out. There really isn't a solution to this problem with the current system of leagues and LP.

You either get lucky or you don't. That's all there is too it.

CarameI FrappeSep 27, 20165 votes

The bigger question is - who's downvoting everyone in this thread? This is why people don't want to try making suggestions because they're going to be downvoted ... but anyways yea I suppose you're right. I want there to be a solution but it's hard to say with how LP works (15-22 LP a win)

RossendaleSep 27, 20164 votes

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You're not rly solving the problem tho, you're just moving it. Instead of 99 LP feeling shitty it would not be 97 LP that makes people pull their hair out. There really isn't a solution to this problem with the current system of leagues and LP.

You either get lucky or you don't. That's all there is too it.

Pretty much this.

If you make it so that 96+LP is an auto-advance to promos you haven't really solved the problem, you just moved the goalposts. Now you have it so that having 95LP feels like shit and the exact same issue applies.

zelhamSep 27, 20166 votes

Maybe make it so that some of the extra 14-23 LP is carried to the next rank.

NiceTryViSep 28, 20161 votes

I've made this suggestion before, it seems like the perfect way to fix it imo

RocketRelmSep 28, 20161 votes

Technically, from what I remember, your LP amount is 'saved' when you enter a promo. It's still being tallied and you're winning/losing LP. It's just hidden from you, and this number determines your LP after you lose a promo (albeit doing nothing if you win the promo).

Warlord ZudaneSep 28, 20161 votes

Doubtful. I had 97LP Bronze II, won a game, got into my promos (had a free win since it was 3rd attempt I think) and then won another game and ended up at Bronze I 0LP.

Death and DoomSep 28, 20161 votes

might happen if your mmr is really really low. thats what riot said at least.

Warlord ZudaneSep 29, 20161 votes

Lost 2 more games because of trolls, won the third and got 24LP. I tend to get 18-24LP per win and lose 8-11ish per loss. I don't know exact numbers off the top of my head but I know it's around that. Says to me I'm climbing at a decent pace.

RocketRelmSep 29, 20161 votes

I'm not trying to be rude, but… did you read what I said? Your example has you winning the promos, and my statement…

this number determines your LP after you lose a promo (albeit doing nothing if you win the promo).

Warlord ZudaneSep 29, 20161 votes

Apologies, read it wrong.

NiceTryViSep 28, 20161 votes

Or, even worse, you lose that game and now have to get that LP back to get in promos now

JupeSep 28, 20162 votes

I don't know why you had gotten so many downvotes for such a comment BUT the "Riot needs to do..." really is over the top but nonetheless come on guys he's right about it being an A+ if it were a test. lets use our Votes very kindly. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Great MutaSep 27, 20166 votes

I think promos should go away unless you are jumping from Bronze >Silver or other division jumps like that.

It increases stress, increases the amount of games and makes it much harder to advance. I had a 64% winrate and I needed over 100 games to go from Bronze > Silver. Too many games.

NoblewindSep 28, 20161 votes

Or even just making it win 1 of the next 2, like when you lose a promo series now. After experiencing both this season, that definitely feels much better than the 2 of 3.

Restless SlumberSep 27, 20165 votes

But hey, at least you can dodge and still be able to get into promos with just one win.

ShifuneSep 27, 20162 votes

Why has no one ever told me this...

CronofugeSep 27, 20164 votes

Hah you think that's bad try winning the game at 99 LP and not getting anything. Old season III clamping was something else.

http://i.imgur.com/UpKNzXo.png

McFatalSep 28, 20162 votes

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Hah you think that's bad try winning the game at 99 LP and not getting anything. Old season III clamping was something else.

http://i.imgur.com/UpKNzXo.png

i remember that shit oooooooohhhh my goddddd.

i was stuck in s1 cuz i rushed into ranked like an idiot and played random shit. i was always destroying everyone but it didnt matter because you would gain like 5 lp and die after.

the week after the new season came and clamping was removed, i was in plat instantly.

Tbags23Sep 27, 20164 votes

I've long said that if Riot really wanted to make some cash they would just allow you to purchase 1 LP for .25 -1 dollar range if you hit 99LP. Happens to me all the time and would willingly pay a bit of money to save myself from another 40 minutes of time. They would bank hard on it IMO.

DraaaaaavéééééénSep 27, 20163 votes

ikr like wth spending 40 min on gameplay and waiting 15 min just to get into the game to win 1 lp

Kanzaki RankoSep 27, 20165 votes

i'm fukin salty right now man

NiaphimSep 28, 20163 votes

And nobody complains that a loss at 1 lp puts you at 0 lp instead of demoting,

dominusxSep 27, 20162 votes

96+ lp should be a free promo win. And no idgaf if ppl at 90 lp nag about it there is a difference in 5- lp and 10- lp

NoblewindSep 27, 20162 votes

It's only if you look at it that way.

There's no real difference between 85-99 in that sense, you're still going to need another win

President Swa1nSep 28, 20161 votes

Yes, although it kind of makes you salty imagining how you would have gone straight to promos if you had just won 1 extra LP

I7A6X2v2Sep 27, 20162 votes

95 LP+ should be directly turned into Promo

notice me Sin piSep 27, 201614 votes

so basically you are proposing that from 100 LP requirement for promo, it should be 95 LP requirement for promo. And then, anyone who has 90~94 LP will start crying about how it feels soo shitty to be soo close to promos and LP requirement would have to drop to 90 LP, and then drop to 85 LP, and repeat. And that will solve nothing.

What really needs to happen is any excess LP gets carried over to next division upon passing promo

theArtifactsSep 27, 20162 votes

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so basically you are proposing that from 100 LP requirement for promo, it should be 95 LP requirement for promo. And then, anyone who has 90~94 LP will start crying about how it feels soo shitty to be soo close to promos and LP requirement would have to drop to 90 LP, and then drop to 85 LP, and repeat. And that will solve nothing.

What really needs to happen is any excess LP gets carried over to next division upon passing promo

Yes.

ChaoticPineconeSep 28, 20161 votes

Well, you dont have to start the slipperly slop.

I mean, I've seen LP gains anywhere from 5 to 25. Its not ridiculous to say "The lowest amount of LP you get for a win is 5, so we wont make the 'grace area' higher than 5." If you need more than 5 to get into your series, you have to earn it - there are other players than need to earn 5lp, so you should too. That way its not a completely arbitrary number.

I have not seen or heard of getting 1 LP for a win, so no matter what, you will always be guaranteed to go over the 100 LP cap for a win at 99LP.

Bouncemaster ZacSep 28, 20161 votes

It literally turns promos from "win 2 out of 3" to "win 3 out of 4" and expecting a 75% winrate just to climb even a little is retarded.

Rakan GarfieldSep 28, 20161 votes

The best solution is set the first promo game to a win if you use less than half lp to get to 100. For example, if you are at 93lp and gain 17lp for a win, since 7 < 17/2 the first promo is considered won.

Unstoppable MonkSep 28, 20161 votes

The best solution to this is to Buff Riot Ames to be able to give +1 LP.

SnowplosionSep 28, 20161 votes

It really feels bad, but there really isn't much that can be done about it. You gain x lp baised on if your elo is similar to the other players in the game. So if you get 20 lp instead of 21, then you got the most unfortunate matchmaking.

DelphiniumSep 28, 20161 votes

Next game's extra lp should be divided to half and put it in your next division.

ScorpionexSep 28, 20161 votes

Or you know we could make it a set amount of games that you have to win in order to get to promos so we can know how how many games we have to win to go up...

like srsly people who are winning only 50% of their games would stay in place whilst those of higher skill would win more and therefore climb also there would be no 99lp crap you just have to win this many games to get to the next division boom skills are tested and things are done and people no longer have to deal with lp system