You know, you cannot enjoy this game anymore unless you're an ADC main.

Onotori·Mar 6, 2018·15 votes·883 views

Because, ultimately, it does not matter what you do unless you're directly supporting your ADC or hindering theirs. No other class can compete with them without a team effort (funny thing is that they're supposed to be weak to 1v1s), and they can determine the outcome of your game on their own. They have an item for every situation, and they have no downtime or significant weaknesses (you could say they're squishy, but I say they have a shield bot attached to them, as well as god tier sustain and all kinds of passive DR / GA)...

I don't like playing ADC, and I don't want my entire game to be focused on making sure my ADC gets to do things. But apparently that's how the game is meant to be played.

19 Comments

vgamedudeMar 6, 20188 votes

It does get super old. Even when watching pro games if you have a fed adc in the back and protect them you win. Last game I watched kog maw got chosen in lck by kz. It's just disgusting. It's worse that it's all all unmissable autos.

AimléssMar 6, 20184 votes

ADC or not, we all win/lose around 50% of our games, so we all suffer half the time. ADCs have to wait for sups and jgs to get them kills most of the time, if they fail, you lose. It's in team fights, after they've been given these kills that the ADC can carry the team fight for you. Contrary to the board's belief, the game isn't in anyone's hands. The Jg/sup could get the ADC ahead but if the ADCs bad they lose, or the jg/sup is bad and can't get the good ADC ahead the ADC loses.

TLDR; Even ADC's gotta prey their jg and sup are good or just lose by default, I don't even know what that means for solo laners... Overall solo que is just luck or cancer right now.

341123545652Mar 6, 20188 votes

"ADC or not, we all win/lose around 50% of our games, so we all suffer half the time."

Just completely ignoring the fact that when an ADC "loses" it is likely because the enemy adc is rolling you guys ??

SalronMar 6, 20184 votes

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it is likely because the enemy adc is rolling you guys ??

Support/jungle roles have more influence over the outcome of botlane than ADC does

vgamedudeMar 6, 20181 votes

Literally this. This is why citing ADC winrate is meaningless as it only serves as a comparison between their strength to another.

OnotoriMar 6, 20182 votes

Yep. And whenever anyone tries to say an ADC is weak, that's only relative to other ADCs.

Z3SleeperMar 6, 20183 votes

If anyone is actually getting 1v1'd by a nonfed ADC they are doing something wrong.

Also I've consistently been seeing and living plenty of games decided by good mid laners, junglers and even top laners that didn't just act as secondary supports.

JackMcSnipeyzMar 6, 20183 votes

What adc 1v1 you except vayne unless he's extreamly ahed? Literaly every class blows them up 1v1 maybe except late game tanks.

I'd love to live in your magical world where i get free wins because i main adc. What? Gnar top is fed as Fuck? Who cares according to boards i 1 shot everything while being a tank at the same time. What? Kat snowballed like crazy and can 1v2 almost anyone? Nah, who cares i'll just snipe her from 900 range because that's how the game works.

This is a team game, if you complain about the enemy team working together to protect their damage dealers, maybe you should be a damage dealer worth protecting. I've seen jax and fiora and yasuo players reaching late game and carrying just as much if not more than "big OP adc".

PandeonorMar 6, 20183 votes

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.. No other class can compete with them without a team effort (funny thing is that they're supposed to be weak to 1v1s),

An adc like Vayne or Twich is supposed to be weak 1 vs 1?

O.K.. I played LoL only about a year or so. So you can tell me wich class competed better in the past (and wich past you are talking about) vs mid/lategame Vayne and Twitch 1 vs 1? I am quite old, so I have an excuse to not have this in mind.

JorenciceMar 7, 20181 votes

Mages and assassians before they were nerfed.

I remember 1 time before mordes rework a twitch poped out of stealth and just got exploded.

His death time was like 0.13 seconds

Fizz once kill my 6 item build adc in 0.07 seconds my fastest death ever.

MizayaMar 6, 20182 votes

I dunno, I find jungle mid and top to be quite fun to play. You can still carry if you're good enough and don't have a terrible team. I'd rather enjoy myself than be bitter about adcs... i've mained them for years and it's not really that fun to play, I only play them in ranked as it's the role im most comfortable with.

OnotoriMar 7, 20181 votes

Oh it's not that other roles aren't fun, it's just that your entire existence is meant to pander to your ADC. If your ADC falls behind, you lose teamfights, and then lose the rest of the game.

M00ndanc3Mar 6, 20181 votes

But have you tried playing Ornn.

No kidding though, I have yet to have a game playing as him that I didn't enjoy.

LightningShadoMar 6, 20181 votes

Well that explains a lot to me. I enjoy the crap out of this game when I play it.

LightingSaberMar 6, 20181 votes

The problem is: once your botlane dies you really can help them as a jungler\midlaner only with 20% success rate, support items too good and cheap(ardent censer is the main problem, while utility support has enough other items with shield power + runes + insane gold generation, just to note - tank supports are not tanky enough and way more less effective overall), difference between b.f. sword after 1\2 kills + some waves and doran blade+longsword\boots is huge too, + after that botlane tower is freaking weak, it can fall without a single back of your enemies, on top of that pick difference makes some lanes unwinnable(or u need to do another disgusting pick to handle an enemy laners, not what you want to play, learn champions\supp + adc setups even if you dont like to play) There is nothing strange that people just flaming every game, when 1 death means that u cant comeback. This situation affects every league and division in this game. Riot needs to find solution of this problem faster.

Jinx HunterMar 6, 20181 votes

WTF do you think I have almost completely quit top lane and just play jinx and mid lane? [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Ben SwoIoMar 7, 20181 votes

I've done very well mid and top, won my lane and did my best to spread my lead to my team. Ultimately, it led me to a win percentage of 45%. Well, the last couple of days I decided to cave in and play support. I haven't climbed anywhere near back to where I was, but I have noticed a HUGE difference in match quality and have been winning more than losing.

This is not something I am happy about at all, I genuinely enjoy the other champs I play. There is nothing wrong with people who actually want to play ADC / support, but when you feel like you need to fill in these roles just to ensure some wins, then it's a problem. The match shouldn't rely so heavily on whether or not your bot lane wins or loses. I hate it.

OnotoriMar 7, 20181 votes

Yep, same here. Whenever I play ADC (or support and prevent my ADC from feeding), I win much more and have a better time in game. I do fine mid, I do fine jungle, but it doesn't matter because my bot lane fed, and their ADC just carries them.

It's not fun to babysit my botlane and depend so much on them even if I'm doing well myself.