This board has such a huge Mage bias and it makes having objective discussion impossible
It's actually pretty disgusting. I thought the tank bias was bad but honestly, even when being wrong or irrational, tank mains just want one thing: they want to feel like they're actually tanky. Whether you agree with that or not, hey that's one thing but they don't have these super unrealistic expectations.
Meanwhile, if you ever mention anything AP needing nerfed, you immediately get major backlash from the Mage players. If mages ever get nerfed when they're clearly fucking broken, oh no, it's not fair that the 58% winrate Mage is getting nerfed but oh man 48% winrate zed isn't getting nerfed!!
Then there's this hilarious expectation that mages should be good at everything. "Hexdrinker is bullshit, this champion that I can't just click on and win is bullshit, AD is bullshit they get to have everything!" "Why can't I 100-0 their ADC, aoe cc their entire enemy team, take 50% of the enemy teams health, protect and enable my carries and do it all while being from long range and safe??" Seriously, it's absurd how Mage players think their champions should be able to do everything with no downside.
Meanwhile, AP itemization is still the best itemization in the game that double dips and in some cases triple dips into stats. AP itemization is rarely even purchased for its passives or actives (obvious exceptions are Zhonyas and tear) because you can get CDR, HP, mana regen in almost any item combination so who fucking cares if you don't need a passive on an item like
, buy it anyway because it gives 100 AP for some reason. No other class can do that, they have to seriously think about every item they buy and the passives they come with because raw stats aren't just good enough.
And hey, I'm not hating on mages honestly. I understand AP itemization does have drawbacks and I understand there has been times where mages were weak (but that has rarely happened). But the degree to which these Mage players on this board bitch and exaggerate about how weak their champions are or their inability to look at anything objectively is such a clear sign of bias.
Seriously, try to point out something AP is overpowered and you'll get downvote bombed so fast. Rylais is fucking broken right now, pros are even building it on
lmao. It shouldn't be giving 100 AP. It gives too many stats, it's not even about its cost. The cost as it is right now is fine but that item gives too much shit.
is basically rushed by every Mage in AP vs AP match-ups and this item is hilariously cheap for all the shit it gives. And again, while the cost probably IS justified, an item giving that much MR while offering CDR and a nice chunk of AP is laughable.
I'll probably get downvoted into oblivion but it just gets annoying as shit when you can speak objectively on this board about everything except mages. I mean, look at them being mad about vlad being nerfed when he's literally 1v5ing in competitive play lmao. So whatever, I honestly just wanted to get this off my chest because ts ridiculous how circle jerky this board is but the Mage bias is so bad it's not even funny.

is broken. It gives way too much for too little.
nobody cares about what he is doing in competitive except for usage in strawman arguments. He's unseen and unheard of outside LCS. He's about as "broken" as
for that matter.

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i completely agree with you. Rylais gives WAY too many stats for only being 2800 gold, and Abyssal scepter is also very good right now.
as items mages have
Ad champions tend to always be better at push since their autos actually do something....
also mages dont have any way to life steal their health back and also have to manage their mana...
and
creates a niche for your champion to work around, doesn't necessarily bring just pure damage but decent stats while creating a different aspect of gameplay for a champion. Both of those item's effectiveness are based on the champion and the situation at hand.
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and it is used to cover one of their most major flaws. However Champions who don't even require this item to stick to their target or already have a slow in their kit can still build this
because it provides more utility for not just themselves but the team overall giving them a strength they never had while making them slightly tankier and providing no serious drawbacks.