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riot regularly introduces game-breaking items every season

ScarnMichaelScar·Mar 14, 2016·4 votes·628 views

then viciously nerfs any champions that can abuse it.

then, when the item itself finally gets a nerf, the champions who were nerfed into the ground stay in the ground.

rip (that bonus damage to monsters in jungle was given to her last season because she could barely clear half of the jungle before backing, AND they nerfed her Q damage until max rank, then right after they nerf the broken items she was abusing that put her over the top) she's been out of viability in top thanks to broken itemization, and repeated nerfs to solo lane shyvana.

took almost a year to get buffed again after op cinderhulk was brought down a peg. got nerfed into the ground because of op top play in LCS. first clear is absolute trash. , good in the jungle for a week before getting nerfed into the ground. now the only thing he's good for is q stun, and ult stun. e damage nerfed. shield nerfed.

please riot. keep balancing your champions based on what garbage items you throw into the meta. ADCs in all 4 carry positions thanks to op items is real fair. mages are almost completely out of viability save for a few like everything else gets demolished by adcs and ad assassins.

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TehNACHOMar 14, 20162 votes

(that bonus damage to monsters in jungle was given to her last season because she could barely clear half of the jungle before backing

You sure about that? I mean, at the time, early reactions mostly reacted to her W buffs at the time with a whole "Okay this is neat, but why? She doesn't need it"

, good in the jungle for a week before getting nerfed into the ground. now the only thing he's good for is q stun, and ult stun. e damage nerfed. shield nerfed.

And yet he still has a solid performance in top lane.

In his case, the issue seems more to be in his inability to power farm while as a Jungler than it is that he's necessarily weak everywhere else.

ADCs in all 4 carry positions thanks to op items is real fair.

Marksmen in all 4 Carry Positions isn't all that weird when you consider that Mages find their home in mid, there are specialized Mages for Top and Jungle, and Caster Carries bot lane are essentially pseudo-mages.

Or how about Mordekaiser making it the case that you can play Fighter like champions in literally all 5 roles (I am including the pseudo-fighter Tanks like Leona and Taric as far as support goes).

mages are almost completely out of viability save for a few like

Not counting the Support Mage Janna who is by far the best Support atm, you missed Ahri, Malzahar, and Anivia, along with Corki being a pseudo-mage while he's in mid lane.

Really this feels more like a really poorly researched knee-jerk post more than anything else.

ScarnMichaelScarMar 14, 20162 votes

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You sure about that? I mean, at the time, early reactions mostly reacted to her W buffs at the time with a whole "Okay this is neat, but why? She doesn't need it"

if she didn't need it in the first place, why remove it, then nerf her Q, and then nerf the itemization that put her over the top in the first place?

And yet he still has a solid performance in top lane.

In his case, the issue seems more to be in his inability to power farm while as a Jungler than it is that he's necessarily weak everywhere else.

Marksmen in all 4 Carry Positions isn't all that weird when you consider that Mages find their home in mid, there are specialized Mages for Top and Jungle, and Caster Carries bot lane are essentially pseudo-mages.

yep AD itemization being so strong that ADC's can go just about anywhere they want is totally not weird and unhealthy

Or how about Mordekaiser making it the case that you can play Fighter like champions in literally all 5 roles (I am including the pseudo-fighter Tanks like Leona and Taric as far as support goes).

did you just bring up Mordekaiser ? the guy who broke botlane for months, and now has no real place anywhere?

Not counting the Support Mage Janna who is by far the best Support atm, you missed Ahri, Malzahar, and Anivia, along with Corki being a pseudo-mage while he's in mid lane.

wow 4 whole mages in viability. so diverse. so great. janna's a support. lets classify her as that. Corky as a "pseudo mage" is a joke. he seriously counters almost every mage that isn't Lux Ahri Malzahar

Really this feels more like a really poorly researched knee-jerk post more than anything else.

TehNACHOMar 14, 20161 votes

if she didn't need it in the first place, why remove it, then nerf her Q, and then nerf the itemization that put her over the top in the first place?

Because not only is her itemization too strong, Shyvana is too strong. Even if we isolate to just the Jungle environment to compare an easy common build element, she is the number 1 Jungler in the game and heavily outperforms other Devourer Junglers in most every category. Even Master Yi. These two elements are individually far too powerful and thus you must nerf each of these elements individually.

yep AD itemization being so strong that ADC's can go just about anywhere they want is totally not weird and unhealthy

It's not.

did you just bring up? the guy who broke botlane for months, and now has no real place anywhere?

Well I mean you're making that odd argument about Marksmen.

wow 4 whole mages in viability. so diverse. so great. janna's a support. lets classify her as that.

5 Mages. Of Mid Lane's top 10 champs. This ignores the Assassins and Fighters that find their home mid, this makes Mages 50% of the top performers even if they aren't necessarily 50% of Mid Lane's population. Do you not get that.

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