Start playing them. nothing tells you the glaring weakpoints of a champion more than playing as them.
i did it with 
all when they were/are at the height of their power in the meta. now, when i lose to them i know it's not because said champion is broken. it's because i knew exactly what it took to beat them, but executed poorly.
Snowyamur9 votesThis guy knows his knowledge:). Bumped up. Supported.
UPfreely4 votes
not on the list
freelo confirmed.
ScarnMichaelScar1 votes
thats why i didn't include her. some champions just kind of lack any substantial counterplay outside of champ select
Troll for Trump3 votesI thought vayne was broken, but justified it cuz she was hard to play. Played vayne first time against Draven(At that time, a counter like he normally is) "PENTAKILL! RAMPAGE!" Yeah sorry vayne IS amazingly strong compared to other things. At least for now.
Egyptian6 votesi'm sorry but with my experience of most adc's against draven if he's even a spec decent he just two shots me anytime I dare confront her , hence why I let my team deal with him but just emphasising the fact that , that draven probs wasn't that decent !
Troll for Trump1 votesThe winrate of draven vs vayne is 45%. And D.ven counters vayne. Draven was plat, but I honestly think thresh was more helpful than his leona
Zantumall5 votes...If Draven has a 45% winrate against Vayne, then Draven doesn't counter Vayne.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesAgree 100% (although that won't stop me from hating Xin and Fiora. I know there's a way to beat them, I just can't stand them)
ScarnMichaelScar3 votesAgree 100% (although that won't stop me from hating Xin and Fiora. I know there's a way to beat them, I just can't stand them)
i don't mind xin. but honestly i do think fiora's OP. the window of opportunity you have to kill her is just so small in 1v1, and in teamfights she's just as annoying if she ults someone with low hp
Ralanr2 votesHonestly it's the frustration in finding the way to beat them and not accomplishing it that gets me.
Bastard Chief2 votesI have a easy time with every single one of those champions. Ahri can be annoying but she isn't OP tho.
Sheep will be sheep, I'm upvoting you, but expect to receive more negative downvotes.
Also some of those champions take skill, people don't realize that. Azir probably takes the most skill in the game, and Ekko who is my favorite champion takes skill despite having a pretty damn good kit to combat anything, but the problem is his entire kit can be avoided, especially his ult which I never been hit by I think. If you're dumb enough to get hit by the 2nd part of his Q, you deserve to lose, it's that simple. I mean I can understand when he jungles he can get his Q off, but laning should NEVER be a problem unless your like Akali, or Katarina which I consider he hard counters cause they are pretty squishy, and Akali's invisible circle can be AOED, and ulted.
Anyho, never had a problem with them.
WarlockLaw2 votesIf you don't have boots yet Ekko can throw his q in such a way that if the first part hits you will get hit by the second part unless you dash/blink out of the way. Also q good Ekko can change the return path with his e to help hit you with th the second portion as well. However if you become aware if those tools and consider them in your positioning then you can avoid a good majority of the double hits
BroLane2 votesJinx. I think she's overpowered right now but is being overshadowed by Vayne. In fact, I see her more! She's just too easy to play for the amount of damage and effect she can have on team fights. Not to mention that if she gets a lead you can say goodbye to your turrets. I know that's her thing, but it's too much.
iamleburk1 votesEhhh she dies really easy. She does well in teamfights if you let her get to a certain point, but flanks, roams, and ganks all screw her pretty bad. Worse than they screw most ADC's
Cosmic Warper2 votesI find almost every single champion manageable to deal with except the truly obnoxious ones. Champions like alistar, annie, irelia, xin zhao, etc are very obnoxious because of 1) The simplicity of their kits and 2) The sheer power their kits provide for a fight. Also I personally hate laning against a good yasuo since i'm a mid laner, but other than that the game is pretty diverse in terms of both viable and strong champions.
zouzou1232 votesA strong 
is hard to deal with. How do you counter Teemo. I hate him not because i can't counter him, he is very annoying, he's w should be nerfed along with his Ult.
ShatteredSkys1 votesA strong
if you're struggling with Teemo I would recommend either Cho gath or Rumble. Both are unaffected by his blind, once Cho gath gets spirit visage he can pretty much ignore teemo and cs away and can w teemo down to the point where a w r will kill him. Rumbles e negates teemos w and he can easily run down and out damage teemo.
Livin like Riven2 votesVayne, the 1vs5 backline diving assassin (as some have claimed), takes literally nothing more than a pink ward to delete.
Starcall Casey2 votesI play Fiora, I know she's broken and OP. I play against fiora, I know she's broken and OP. There are exceptions for every rule.
Only Play Darius1 votes100% agree with this, which is why I hate when people accuse champions of being OP in general.
As a 
main I was getting sick and tired of seeing and feeling like there was absolutely nothing I could do about him. So after enough stomps I just bought Darius and started playing. As for what I learned? Well I learned that it's impossible for Darius to fail that matchup if he doesn't get ganked, so I when I play doge I still hate the living shit out of Darius, but problem is that in my journey to learn Darius's weakness I enjoyed him so much that now he's my second favorite toplaner XD
GastonBarnacles2 votesCome on man dont abuse darius. He is such cancer. I got to level 5 with him right after the rework when everyone was saying "darius sucks, failed rework" and he was fun cause of how insanely powerful he is but I stopped cause it's such bullshit to play against. Every match the enemy called me so op.
Only Play Darius1 votesBeen playing Darius long before juggernaut reworks were even announced. I admit he is toxic as fuck to play against especially during laning phase but I will be damned if he isn't unholy amounts of fun to play XD
I feel dirty every game I do well with him.
GastonBarnacles2 votesThats the thing. Build full tank and they struggle to damage me while I get my 5 stacks and get so much fucking dmg.
Only Play Darius1 votesIt was harder pre-rework where he actually had to build damage. Now with his new passive he gets free AD at 5 bloodstack, and it becomes much easier to get max bloodstacks now because you only need to get it once.
Sintama1 votes
what's his glaring weakpoint? Incredible damage? Incredible CC? Incredible tankability?
Ralanr4 votesPlay him and find out.
Ancestor0072 votesMeh early game, relies on landing the slow in order to get his passive on you, short-range, immobile(-ult).
iamleburk2 votesAnd his ult is pretty underqwhelming
JJI7441 votesAnd his ult is pretty underqwhelming
His ult is 400 damage added to every spell and AA at full build. You literally do not even need to use the active portion of his ult for it to be strong. His only actual weakness is difficulty reaching priority targets.
And quite frankly, when you can choose to save your teammates or deal 30% of the opposing tanks HP, its not like he doesn't have options outside of going for a priority target.
Krigjer1 votesWhen I play draft pick with a friend of mine, every week he asks for a different ban.
'Ban Urgot!' Next week, 'Ban Rengar for me please!'
Once I played with him, lost to a really fed Graves, and the very next game 'Ban Graves please!'
Dude, the champions you hate aren't even OP, just learn to play against them.
Keitron1 voteslvl 20 noob im done
ScarnMichaelScar1 voteslvl 20 noob im done
implying this isn't my smurf account.
Keitron1 votesOh and what is your main account? Cardboard 7?
fukimissHarambe1 votesThe only champion where I feel like this doesn't apply is Fiora, as a Fiora player and someone who despises playing against her I have no problem killing once, or twice pre-6 but once she has the god damned ultimate, barring the fiora being bad, I can't find a way to win a fight against her
Catastrop1 votesI agree but it won't stop me from trying to tear my hair out when I lane against a 
. It's just so tedious that even when I do win lane and shit all over him, I really just feel drained and in no way like it was worth all the effort.
Teslablade1 votesYesterday I had a Yi support who was complaining about how 'OP' Amumu is because he fed him to hell. A lot of people are just thick.
Baron Perenolde1 votesI took this approach in Street Fighter 4 a lot. The last instance I remember is when I had to play Deejay to get a better idea of how to deal with him as T. Hawk... God that match is cancer.
Vekkna1 votesYeah, this really isn't true. My favorite and most-played champs are 
I got tired of being slow, mana-starved, and squishy as hell, so I picked up 
When I started playing Singed, I had zero experience on any pure melee champ or tank. Turns out being a tanky melee actually is as easy as it looks. After ranked games on him, I'm still over 60% win rate, even though most of those games involved going into brand new matchups totally blind and having no idea how to play against them.
Ditto Ahri. I sucked with her right after I started playing the game. But after playing around 200 games on Zyra, I picked Ahri back up for a couple games, and it was just insane how lulzy she is with her speed boost, low mana costs, and safety/kill secure on R.
So yeah, this might be true sometimes. Often enough it's just that some champs have better kits than others for more common situations. Sometimes it is a matter of some champ classes just being able to ignore certain game mechanics and being easier to play as a result.
Meeks0111 votesI played Darius and killed 4 of the enemy team single-handedly. Azir has a 42% winrate. I fail miserably with him. I go 22/8 first time as Riven. 25/14 first time Ahri. I suck ass with Vayne, and ADCs in general. I fought a Yi with Gragas. I had to wait one second for my W channel and 10% damage reduction and nerfed max health damage while Yi channeled for 50% damage reduction then killed me in 2 hits despite me being full tank. I go positive 90% of the time with Fizz, and feel massively superior. I do well half the time with Ekko. Shyvana is just ridiculous and I deal half of people's health with Q and Devourer and W and E and Ruined King.
ICemaNT1 votes His playful/trickster is just broken atm because of the A) really short cooldown B) Ability to dodge almost just about anything consistently. Playing as a poke champion like Azir he can kill you in two full cycles early (and escape without taking return damage like every other assassin since he doesn't have to walk out) and then just rolls you for the rest of the game. Against assassins like Ahri he can easily dodge the charm or above 90% of kat's ult, which negates a large bit of their damage. The way to play against most assassins is to stun them and have jungle gank, but when he saves trickster (like most decent fizzs do) then there really is no couterplay.
2erial Rakist1 votesOmg this post <3
It makes me cringe when I see people saying talon is op, it makes me think have you ever played talon before? if I was facing a talon I would know exactly what to do and how to make him useless
Jasiwel1 votesFirst, your mentality is amazing OP and I hope more people adopt it. Second, this is a huge wall of text, so be prepared.
I'm not sure about all the others, but statistically one can argue Vayne and Ahri are currently too strong because their pickrate is higher than most other champions of their class, accompanying a notably higher than average winrate. Ahri has an ~53% winrate and ~18% pickrate in Plat YoloQ. Her TeamQ stats are similar, though more sporadic. Vayne has an ~51-2% Winrate with a 37-8% pickrate in Plat YoloQ. Like Ahri, her stats are similar, yet more sporadic in TeamQ. In Platinum and Diamond, both are in the Top 10 picked champions this past week, since the patch. Both have positive W/L ratios as well, whereas others in their classes have negative W/L ratios (which is by all means healthier because a popular champion does not equate to an imbalanced one).
While these statistics alone don't prove anything on their own (tho Vayne's W/P stats are ridiculous for any champion), when you compare them to the majority of other champions in their roles, you begin to see that the statistics have weight.
Most other mages right now either have higher winrates with lower pickrates (Veigar, Malzahar, Donger), mild winrates with lower pickrates (Vel'Koz, Brand), or low winrates with low pickrates (Viktor, Orianna). I was trying to find a good contrast (a champion seen often mid, with a decent pickrate and winrate), but since Viktor's/Orianna's recent nerfs that has become kind of difficult. Only Lux compares to Ahri in terms of W/P ratios, but Lux was also buffed recently (so all improvements since then were buff-related) whereas Ahri was nerfed slightly. Ahri is also in the middle of the Top 10 highest winrates in the game, where most of the other champions around her have half the pickrate she does aside from Lux and Elise, who were recently buffed a good bit contrasting Ahri's recent nerf. Veigar has a higher (57%) winrate, but his pickrate is half of Ahri's right now.
For a comparable bottom lane reference for Vayne, let's look at Tristana. She has only recently become popular due to the meta and sits at a ~46-47% winrate with a 26% pickrate. She is also in the top 10 across the board, but her W/L ratio is significantly less than Vayne's, who has a ~10% higher pickrate. I think Tristana is a decent representation of a champion becoming a reliable meta pick, whereas Vayne has become more or less a monster that has excessive power in multiple places to give her truly the leading edge. Vayne is also the second highest champion picked in the game at every level, except Masters where she is third. Again, this information alone is not significant until we compare with other champion in her role. Jinx can also be used comparably, but the results aren't that different than Tristana's albeit her Winrate is ~4% higher. That puts her closer to Vayne's level of balance when looking at it closer because she has a positive W/L ratio to accompany her high pickrate. The next highest contender is Caitlin, with a modest 50% winrate and 16% pickrate, though her pickrate drops to 12% in TeamQ.
I mostly want to point out that while certain champions are not necessarily overpowered and one simply needs to readjust their strategies to defeat them, that does not exclude some of those same champion from having statistical trends leading otherwise. I'm probably going to be downvoted for arguing against a great mentality (seriously, everyone should look for solutions to win over blaming balance) and also suggesting Ahri's being OP, but that's the cost of posting a genuinely strong belief backed by statistics that some of these champions are genuinely too strong for the health of this game.
PerishSoftly1 votesDid that as Lux once... went 13-2-22 in mid lane. Don't think I landed a single laser either. >.< Did that as Ekko and Fizz, both built as tanks. God that was aggravation for everyone. Did that with Darius... ended up 3v1ing the enemy support, mid, and jungle by their blue and walking away with 45% HP.
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Sir Fuzzi1 voteslook, guys
if you're not listening to the people who hate them what makes you think the people who hate them would listen to you?
Stephenizgod1 votesHmm and what happens if i turn out to be amazin with them? Then am i a god or are they just broken?
therealdragon1 votesummmmmmmmmmm
Legit how it went when I bought Darius. Saw he was op, bought him, and became op with him. Now when I play him in team builder, I almost always win lane and usually win game.
Pretty depressing though I see him picked in worlds and no one knows to get someone within range of his e, then use it. Then attack once and use w to slow them. Like no instead they think "Hey lets just q when no ones in range" and continue to get destroyed from range. Like no, thats not how darius works. How do you fail on a champ that op? O.o Get them in melee range-you got like 5 tools to do so (2 being kit 3 being items) then q and ult them. Not that hard.