Oh, you're an AP champ?

Niyumi··3 votes·1,018 views

Well, you have dramatically lower damage, next to no sustain, less utility items, and can only build one stat to be useful.

Meanwhile, AD champs have a fucking mountain of items to choose from, have more sustain than any champion in the game ever had (thanks Lifesteal!), can one shot you, can build on-hit and tank and still one shot you, can build offtank AD and still one shot you, can build crit and AS and one shot you, can build one damage item into full tank and still one shot you, don't have to aim to do damage and can just click on you and go AFK, have SEVERAL items to avoid CC or remove it, have several items to prevent them from dying, have no resource or cost or drawback in their autos, no significant CDs on their main form of damage...

Yet, those braindead AD champs are the strongest in the game, hands down.

I can really tell that Riot is ABSOLUTELY not biased towards AD at all!

36 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSo7 votes

WHAT CHAMP IS BALANCED TO YOU?

you just bitched about yi a few days ago.. .ashe the other day and now mages

Niyumi2 votes

Champs that:

  • Have weaknesses

  • Have real counterplay (not just stack armor and win or spam CC until they die -- I'm talking things you ACTIVELY DO)

  • Have downsides

  • Have resources or meaningful CD gates (Gnar's Q, for example. Gotta catch it or it's a lot longer of a CD)

  • Are required to aim for their major damage.

  • Require some amount of skill.

AurelionSol Bard Camille Fiora Gnar Illaoi Ivern Lissandra Lux (She has too much damage though) Nidalee Orianna Taliyah Velkoz Vladimir Warwick Xerath

oSEXYPLATYPUSo8 votes

lol this is laughable

like really

Hammermancer1 votes

AurelionSol Bard Camille ok this list of "Balanced" is pretty good so far...

Fiora ok, i can see that, yeah, cause like... she requires a lot of skill to not feed since she's currently not very powerful in the meta... ok.,... Gnar Yup, nobody will ever argue that gnar is the most balanced Illaoi well... she's at least champion 420.. can we get like... a leaf skin for.. Ivern ok so literally every champion so far is either a top tier pick or is just waiting for the right time to be played and Lissandra How in the he- know what? sure... lissandra... sure.... wut Lux because i've never seen a bronze lux get a quadra kill before Nidalee Literally the posterchild of "Never quite balanced" she gets nerfed into the ground twice a season and is still broken in the right hands Orianna ok, that's actually quite fair, she has a great amount of versatility, but she's not particularly overpowered, though she can carry entire teamfights Taliyah Y'know, for some reason she reminds me of Zilean .. maybe it;s just the pick rate Velkoz yup.. ... seriously vel'koz is one of my next buys, because he's so fair that i think i could probably fair better in ranked... by spamming matches as vel'koz

Vladimir i take back what i said about nidalee.. There was a post from a rioter some time ago that states that Vlad was a mistake Warwick PRESS R TO SKILL.. ok it's not as bad anymore.... but... he's a one trick pony about as in depth as garen Xerath Well you got one pretty balanced champion... at least this one..

Why tf have i never had a team comp of Jhin Velkoz Xerath that's like a wet dream

DrCyanide1 votes

Xerath and Jhin is pretty awesome. You both start ulting and the enemy team has to dance for their life!

Hammermancer1 votes

kinda makes me want to get a Jayce Nidalee on it too

God i miss having a 5 man team

ZephyrDrake2 votes

{quoted}

Champs that:

  • Have weaknesses

  • Have real counterplay (not just stack armor and win or spam CC until they die -- I'm talking things you ACTIVELY DO)

  • Have downsides

  • Have resources or meaningful CD gates (Gnar's Q, for example. Gotta catch it or it's a lot longer of a CD)

  • Are required to aim for their major damage.

  • Require some amount of skill.

AurelionSol Bard Camille Fiora Gnar Illaoi Ivern Lissandra Lux (She has too much damage though) Nidalee Orianna Taliyah Velkoz Vladimir Warwick Xerath

wow are those champions supposed to be the "balanced" ones? cuz if that is your list please do not post about champion balance ever again. Camille balanced? Fiora balanced? Illaoi balanced? Ivern? please you have no idea what makes a champion balanced

Hammermancer1 votes

wait is fiora really op right now? What am i not knowing? Teach me senpai!

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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wait is fiora really op right now? What am i not knowing? Teach me senpai!

she is not OP but she is not balanced in any way shape or form

Hammermancer1 votes

Awww, she's always been so cool to me but if she's just average she's gonna get eaten by the next ad duelist to take top lane by storm.

also this guy has to be trolling.. that entire list was either broken as in op or broken as in doesnt work at all.... with the exception of orianna.

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

fiora can be balanced, she has a decent skillcap, missing those vitals can mess up everything, oh, and she isnt a good teamfighter

Ok sure but why1 votes

get rid of ww and illaoi

Niyumi1 votes

How to beat Illaoi: Move.

How to beat WW: Stand at 5 inches from him.

LordGeovanni1 votes

assumeing her % damage doesnt still kill you when its up every 4 seconds that ghost she pulls cant move. only balanced champions on that list are Bard and Cammile. WW is underpowered when the enemy has more than 50% hp and over powered when they have less than 50% hp

LordGeovanni1 votes

none of those mages have meaning full cooldown gates except lissandra and she is considered an out of date mage. and gnars max hp magic damage is bs and ridiculously high

TyrekGoldenspear5 votes

Diana laughs

Niyumi2 votes

Except AP champs that can even compete with AD champs are the exception, not the rule.

Hammermancer3 votes

Ahri Anivia Annie Blitzcrank Brand Chogath Ekko Diana Elise Evelynn Ezreal Fiddlesticks Fizz Heimerdinger Karma Katarina Karthus Kennen Kayle Malzahar

I'm about halfway through the alphabet, note that i left out champs that i think aren't particularly great right now

{quoted}

Except AP champs that can even compete with AD champs are the exception, not the rule.

Maokai Morgana Nami Nautilus Nidalee Nunu Orianna Rumble Ryze Sejuani Veigar Velkoz Viktor Xerath Zac Ziggs Zilean Zyra

Hammermancer2 votes

not ONE of these champions lacks viability, utility, or purpose. you draw the line between AD and AP, I draw the line between purpose and output. If my team needs damage i do damage, if we need Physical damage i go physical damage, magic damage... Yep magic damage!

If we need hard CC and tank, I got a guy! CC and damage? I got another guy!

I'm trash and I know how wrong you are, and i'm kind of turned off by your post to the point of being angry

GJ troll complete

Mecha MaIphite4 votes

Does shitposting arouse you or something?

LordGeovanni3 votes

item 3027 item 3146 sustain. item 3027 item 3165 item 3040 mana sustain/ utility. item 3146 item 3040 item 3124 item 3001 item 3030 item 3100 item 3152 item 3116 item 3285 item 3092 item 2301 item 3050 item 3157 item 3135 item 3089 utility

Snowball4u2 votes

Like the actual fuck are you talking about?

It's true that ad's have more items

but when ad champs core items cost more than trump makes, and ap champs can pay 2 gold to get all their items, how the fuck can any ad champ be better

Penns2 votes

Meanwhile Rabadons still most expensive item in the game while not even that good lel

ForgiveColour2 votes

lower damage

Ecks dee

Big Lincoln2 votes

why aren't AP champs the best at everything REEEEEEEEEEE

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

And there were barely any AD mids at all in all LCS/LCK/LPL games. Show me if were there more Zed/Talon mid than Orianna/Corki/Syndra mid.

DonatellaVersace1 votes

Would you like a trophy for writing that?

Incarceration1 votes

I am a mid lane main, and even I think AP champions are much stronger than AD. I would rather have a Teemo than a Pantheon in late game fights.

Niyumi1 votes

Ashe Caitlyn Darius Draven Ezreal Gangplank Garen Graves Irelia JarvanIV Jax Jayce Jhin Jinx Khazix Kled LeeSin Lucian MasterYi MissFortune Nasus Olaf Renekton Rengar Riven Shyvana Talon Tristana Trundle Tryndamere Twitch Varus Vayne Vi MonkeyKing XinZhao Yasuo Yorick Zed

Name one AP champ minus Ziggs that is OBJECTIVELY stronger than anyone on this list. Meaning more damage than a damage carry, more utility than a utility pick, more anything. There is not one AP champ that is the best in a category, or even close to the top.

Dryditch2 votes

Swain Better health regen than a lifestealing Vayne.

Syndra One shot a Jhin with a Q late game

Zac Ever get hit by a full AP Zac E? Squishies cease to exist.

Incarceration1 votes

Azir One of the two biggest hypercarries. Kayle The second of the two biggest hypercarries. Brand Much more utility and damage than anyone even close on that list. Zyra Much more utility and damage than anyone even close on that list. Veigar Biggest one shot potential out there.
Cassiopeia A godly hypercarry comparable to the likes of Azir or Kayle

Literally every AP champion with AOE spells that have tons of damage (Orianna) beat them no problem.

Leo10241 votes

as a mage main, they're extremely healthy right now with a few exceptions, play cass or syndra? good early, shut them down? they're absolutely useless, and by the time they've gotten items, it's late game and it doesn't matter, i love mages

SnugglePuggle941 votes

I agree with you bro. Don't listen to the haters below me.

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