So um... remind me how Akali is, IN ANY WAY, fair.

Niyumi·12/1/2017, 11:31:17 AM·138 votes·7,876 views

She's 100% targeted, has more fucking sustain than anyone not an ADC, she's hyper mobile, she has invisibility with a 5s CD for its fucking absurd uptime, she cannot be kited... she's the literal definition of a statcheck, which you "hate."

Oh but just CC her, and she loses! ... yeah? So does every other fucking champion.

So, you either one shot her (which isn't possible since she builds offtank), CC lock her until she dies (which also isn't possible thanks to her fucking W), or lose automatically.

And that's fair? Yeah, okay. But you'd NEVER make a double standard or ignore obviously broken champs that have money making potential. Nope!

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Bârd12/1/2017, 12:28:12 PM34 votes

Oh look, another one of these.

You got shit on by an Akali, and are here to cry about it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: a champion beating you after somebody fed them does not make them OP.

You made this post four minutes after a game ended in which you got absolutely demolished by an Akali, who was 18/3/12 due to a particularly incompetent Vladimir.

Even Soraka can be a nigh unstoppable hyper carry if she is that fed.

Moving on to the actual post...

A champion being all targeted doesn't mean they have "no counterplay". Her Q relies on her getting the follow up hit for most of its damage, which is easily abusable. Her R would be stronger if it were a skill shot; because it's targeted, she can only use it offensively in most situations.

(also, her W and E aren't targeted spells, so that's BS)

She has SOME sustain, sure, but it's nowhere near as exorbitant as you make it out to be. It's decent lane sustain in the laning phase, but it's only good for keeping yourself topped off since trying to use it while you're actually low is just going to get you killed. It's strong in-combat sustain late game, but by that point her sustain should be the least of your worries.

She's mobile, but can only really go in one direction. Her ult can't be used as an escape unless she's already balls deep and there are some enemy minions around.

She has invisibility, yes, and it's her only real defense. It's hard countered by true sight (Ignite, Soul Shackles, Oracles Extract), damage over time (TY Shimmer), and any large splash damage. The downtime is short if she gets a couple CDR items, it's still long enough that she's gonna get bursted.

Akali is very much a kitable champion. She has some dashes, sure, but she's not like RIven. Those dashes take a while to come back up; if she doesn't get resets, she's a sitting duck. Considering her ult can be interrupted by displacement effects... yeah she can have issues with target access.

If you think Akali is a stat check, why don't you try playing her? I mean, such a simple and OP champ must be free elo right XD.

Just because it's a common answer doesn't mean it's a wrong one. This game has a LOT of glass cannons; keep em from shooting and they'll shatter.

You don't have to one shot her, just protect your carry for a little while so they can kill her. As for the "Off-tank" thing, nope. That stopped being a thing a long time ago; the Akali in your game got a spirit Visage because your team was very AP heavy and she had enough mejais stacks that she didn't need any more damage. Most Akali's go for a pure damage build; the only defenses they get are Zhonyas and Banshees, which don't exactly tank them up.

Yes. Yes that's fair.

Ashe mage AD12/1/2017, 12:41:37 PM29 votes

Dafaq? Where in the world did you pull that 5 sec cd on her Shroud? It's like 16 sec or something. I've been maining her before and she's simply not as good as she used to be. This argument you're making it's the same argument bronze and silvers make about Yasuo or Riven tbh.

Jbels12/1/2017, 11:49:32 AM24 votes

You camp her pre 6. She has literally NOTHING she can do in the game until she hits level 6, and even then, not until she gets her first item. Akali has a piss poor early game, and if you camp the shit out of her and put her behind enough, she won't do anything for the rest of it

Edit: Holy fuck, everybody needs to chill on these replies. In what part of this reply to his post did I ever say Akali was fair and balanced? Her kit is fucking toxic. I told him what to do so he can not lose to her next game. I repeat, you all need to chill out.

DuskDaUmbreon12/1/2017, 2:39:08 PM23 votes

E is AoE, not targeted, but whatever.

She does not have more sustain than mostly anyone. Her innate sustain (i.e. before buying Gunblade, an actual sustain item) is less than any Juggernaut's sustain (and less than Xin's). Her shroud does not have a 5s CD by any means, not even in URF. And she very much can be kited, just CC her and walk away. Or just wait out her R charges (should be easy as a tanky toplane champion!). And she actually does require some planning, and isn't truly a stat-check. At least, no more so than someone like Katarina is.

You want a real stat-check? Look at Udyr whenever he's viable. He is a literal stat-check. No thought required, even. Just mash buttons and right-click until someone dies. It doesn't even truly matter what order you mash them in, as long as you impact with either Q or R, depending on whichever is the meta for him. Akali at least has to think about her shroud. And she actually does run out of energy, unlike most other energy-using champions (Shen sometimes can, if you're not paying attention to his energy regain from Q+E passive).

Actually, not every champion loses to CC. Tanks tend to shrug it off. It's essentially their point. Olaf and Morgana are also designed around not giving a shit about CC. However, CC is meant to take out two specific classes: Assassins and ADCs with sustain. The former because they're insanely mobile and bursty, so CC is about the only way to take them out, the latter because you have to deal more than they can heal.

Akali doesn't build off-tank. She buys Banshee's and either Guardian Angel (which is pretty far from a tanky item) or Zhonya's. That's not off-tank. That's almost the exact same thing a mage that's close to the frontline buys. You can also CC lock her, because CC stops her from using her Shroud. Also, AoE CC exists. Even AoE CC that reveals her! (See: Galio). You also can stat-check her, if you're able to. If you out-sustain (Pretty much every non-mage in early, and mostly just marksmen and specialized champs in late) and out-damage her, and are capable of surviving burst (So...Mostly just Aatrox, after all criteria. Possibly Camille or Fiora.), you can literally just stat-check her to death, since her escape is entirely dependent on having an enemy to dash to. So she doesn't even have a real escape.

mosaickle12/1/2017, 12:22:10 PM8 votes

Well, I mean, you said it yourself. CC her down and focus her, cuz I mean the easiest way to counter Akali (or any assassin who brings absolutely nothing to any team except damage) is to stay grouped. That's why she's great in lower elo (where no one groups) and not great in higher elo (where grouping against an Akali is basic high elo knowledge).

Also, I did mention, she brings nothing except damage in a fight. Besides, many things are broken in pre-season, Akali's not the only one. Kinda makes me think that this post was made partly from tilt from recent games

Marshbouy12/1/2017, 10:15:14 PM5 votes

Ah yes. Bitching about Akali, this is something I can get behind. I'm already tired of the moral ambiguity of this LGBT nonsense. Let's go back to our roots and get in internet fights about assassins.

NemeBro12/1/2017, 11:07:36 PM5 votes

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And that's fair? Yeah, okay. But you'd NEVER make a double standard or ignore obviously broken champs that have money making potential. Nope!

Akali isn't even popular.

"Money-making potential" lmao.

Dead Anime Dad12/1/2017, 5:11:53 PM4 votes

Just pink ward the spear.

Serika Zero12/1/2017, 8:53:50 PM2 votes

she has an ok early game, a good mid game and a bad late game this is the definition of balance

she is 100% team reliant to win games. While you can definitely carry in the mid game, your team has to group and get objectives or you will start to fall off. she has high damage, but also dies quite easily she is very punishing if you make mistakes, example: master tier akali vs diamond 5 singed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_zxvHBEChc

her invisibility has 18s cooldown at rank1, and its the last skill she maxed. With about 8 seconds uptime. Which means, more like a 10-8 seconds instead of 5. No, not all champions can just be CCed and they are dead. Examples: tanks, bruisers, rengar.

You need to respect her power spike in mid game, that's all............ But, i don't think you know what this means....... I think you believe that you should be able to 1v1 anyone at any point of the game, regardless what champion you play or how feed the enemy is or how farmed they are.

Every champion has good points and bad points. They got strenghts and weakness. To defeat them, you must understand their weakness. And not attack their strentgh What most people however think is:

akali noob trash champion, only noobs play her, i should be able to crush her whenever i want however i want. If she kills me its because she's op as fuck, there's no way i got outplayed or overstayed.

And with that cooky behavior, instead of abusing akali's weaknesses, they fail to do so and attack her when she's strong. Which results in her murdering them, snowballing and sometimes winning, other times losing.