https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/VLu215QO-quick-gameplay-thoughts-june
i hope Meddler, that you look at 2 things: -her laning phase -her W
W is a broken spell can block AA, spells, summoner spells can do nuke(250 is huge in mid game) can slow can slow attack speed for 2 seconds can stun for 2 seconds something needs to be done about that attack speed DURATION, 2 seconds at all ranks is incredibly broken
4NoxiousHours6 votesher nerf is gonna be base movement speed reduced by 5. That would be the biggest slap on the face LOL
BALDG1VEN BOOMER3 votesI'd say we removed 3 AD instead.
Troll for Trump3 votesNo, that would actually be pretty helpful for dealing with her in laning. She won't be able to randomly walk around and Q you as easily
ProfDrDeath2 votesYou might laugh about it, but 5 base MS reductions can be a lot more impactful in game than they seem on paper.
Movement speed's value is not necessarily about each champion's numbers in a vacuum, but more about the differences between all champions.
Skelenth5 votesTFW someone uses the term "nuke" for 250 damage http://imgur.com/fyhZmtS?noredirect
420 grams3 votesThey're nerfing skill champions and buffing stat check ones. Lol
Ralanr4 votesYou sound like Fuffy.
five oh tree 3 votesMFW OP doesn't know anything about fiora. The slow time is 1.5s, not 2. No one is going to max w second and use it AS A NUKE.
You aren't even complaining about the strongest part: animation cancelling.
I think this actually qualifies as a shitpost at this point.
Ahristocats1 votes[{quoted}](name=Time And a Half,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=y5NpEQ6Y,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-06-08T19:08:52.590+0000)
MFW OP doesn't know anything about fiora. The slow time is 1.5s, not 2. No one is going to max w second and use it AS A NUKE.
OK my bad, point is it shouldn't be the same duration at all ranks
[{quoted}](name=Time And a Half,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=y5NpEQ6Y,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-06-08T19:08:52.590+0000)
No one is going to max w second and use it AS A NUKE.
whatever you use it for, it's still going to do a decent amount of damage
[{quoted}](name=Time And a Half,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=y5NpEQ6Y,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-06-08T19:08:52.590+0000)
You aren't even complaining about the strongest part: animation cancelling.
because i don't play fiora, and i don't know what animation cancelling you can do with that
[{quoted}](name=Time And a Half,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=y5NpEQ6Y,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-06-08T19:08:52.590+0000)
I think this actually qualifies as a shitpost at this point.
if you say so meddler still read the board, so he got the message
five oh tree 2 votesHe will not, however, take it seriously, as there are errors that wouldn't have been there if you'd taken 45 seconds to look up fiora's wiki. Why should he take an opinion seriously if the person sharing it isn't knowledgeable on the subject?
Ralanr2 votesHonestly it confuses me that it can block so much for the duration, but stops as it blocks and reflects hard CC.
It basically makes her able to survive multiple people jumping her.
Vęrtęx1 votesBut that's her only defense ability.
Ralanr2 votesTrue. Though she's also very mobile and has built in sustain.
Honestly I think the biggest frustration for Fiora's W is shared with Yasuo's W, it lasts too long and feels too forgiving for reflex based characters.
It's more obvious on Yasuo though.
Vęrtęx1 votesPeople are always going to complain about melee carries, but her and yasuo are better designed than tryndamere and yi. I don't like how people complain about abilities that allow outplay. My enjoyment in this game comes from outplay not rightclicking and letting my stats win.
Ralanr3 votesAnd outplay is fine, but the defensive mechanics just feel too forgiving.
Honestly I think Yasuo's wall for example should scale in duration with rank instead of size. So rank one wall is very short and rewards reaction.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votesi hope Meddler, that you look at 2 things: -her laning phase
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
can slow attack speed for 2 seconds
yeah, its so stupid... to much force into one spell IMO (or into one kit).
Prestige AkaIi2 votesI don't understand all the hate for the W. She becomes invulnerable but she also roots herself for 1.5 seconds(or however long it lasts for i dont remember) along with the atk speed slow being a highly telegraphed skillshot that is pretty easy to dodge. I'm not saying she doesn't need a nerf because obviously people are having problems with her but I don't really see a problem with her kit. Her kit was designed with a lot of counterplay which she does have.
I would think people who hate Fiora's w would hate Fizz's E more because not only does he become untargetable, but it also gives him a lot of mobility and deals a lot of aoe damage where it lands. I personally don't have a problem with either of these abilities but I just don't get why Fiora's is so hated comparatively, i'm legitimately curious.
TL;DR
Why is Fiora's W so hated when Fizz's E is arguably better as it makes him untargetable with mobility as well as aoe slow and large amount of damage.
undesirable team3 votes[{quoted}](name=A Bad Akali,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=y5NpEQ6Y,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-08T18:15:21.421+0000)
I don't understand all the hate for the W. She becomes invulnerable but she also roots herself for 1.5 seconds(or however long it lasts for i dont remember) along with the atk speed slow being a highly telegraphed skillshot that is pretty easy to dodge. I'm not saying she doesn't need a nerf because obviously people are having problems with her but I don't really see a problem with her kit. Her kit was designed with a lot of counterplay which she does have.
I would think people who hate Fiora's w would hate Fizz's E more because not only does he become untargetable, but it also gives him a lot of mobility and deals a lot of aoe damage where it lands. I personally don't have a problem with either of these abilities but I just don't get why Fiora's is so hated comparatively, i'm legitimately curious.
TL;DR
Why is Fiora's W so hated when Fizz's E is arguably better as it makes him untargetable with mobility as well as aoe slow and large amount of damage.
because you can waste shit on it fizz e cant be targetted and it is overloaded, it can do stupid damage if it hits a vital, it can att speed slow for some reaosn, it movespeed slows, all combined with her cancerous kit is aids
meowwow72 votespeople are complaining it does too much damage or it blocks too many things and has a 2 second slow but not worried that it can be casted during her lunge
Death by Glamour1 votesI don't know why she needs a dash, a movement speed buff and a slow... can we take the slow away?