I said this when runes came out and I still think I'm right.

LegitBusinessman··1 votes·218 views

There is no mid or late game it's just insta burst all game and it will continue to be an utter circus until you give every champion back the resistances they lost from seals and glyphs. The game was balanced around these base defensives since they were virtually universal. Not taking them was considered greedy. Removing them has obviously caused a problem.

Kog'maw was never broken. But you took 12 mr from glyphs. Now the champion with %hp magic damage on each auto is suddenly broken. Kog'maw didn't get stronger. No one got stronger. Everyone else just got weaker and some were able to abuse it more than others.

My other example is my midlane main. TF lost 9 armor and 12 mr from defensives, and was compensated with... 13 max hp.

Kind of surprised the balance team couldn't foresee this and still hasn't identified this as the main problem.

And then they released Zoe.

From a broader perspective: You legit had to win MORE THAN ONE TRADE before you would consider all-inning for a kill. It required consistent outplay. Not someone making a solitary mistake and losing their tower at 8 minutes. You had to play around the champ and the players tendencies (Champions just feel all homogenized now as a result but that's a separate issue) and the game doesn't have that feel anymore. It more feels like 'Just wait for them to screw up'. The game doesn't reward proactive play. Everyone plays risk averse. LCS is boring af to watch compared to past seasons. I see Gnar v GP lanes in my sleep. I don't feel like I've been outplayed when Tristana crits me 3 times and I die. I don't feel outplayed when Zoe pops me for 80% of my health with a lost chapter. I don't feel outplayed when support brand gets a liandrys presses E and walks away and burns me for 1/3 of my hp. I don't feel outplayed when a full tank J4 claps me in 2 seconds.

I certainly don't feel outplayed when one of my laners falls so far behind you just watch map pressure slowly die off until you get starved out. I don't like my other lanes snowballing so hard I feel I had no control over the game at all even though I won. It doesn't feel nice when falling behind is not 'I gotta farm back up and play safe' but has become a perpetual death sentence to be perpetually behind the curve until the games over.

It's not fun when your options become 'We either lose or just hope they throw hard.'

And this is ultimately all the result of one thing.

-9 armor. - 12 MR.

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Peritheus1 votes

Been going downhill like this since somewhere around 5.6, and no it's not just the result of one thing, it's the stockpiling problems that we shouted, warned and yet never was properly answered as they took ages to do and finally realize some of the thousands of things they've forgotten, lost as they take/apply 1 little thing out of the system and create 100s of more balancing problems while not learning from other's mistakes. People want to be diverse, creative, free, not locked into a build that probably every 1 is using while being unnecessarily complicated as it feels like I'm playing hot potato with a 1/3 chance of screwing up the page before being thrown into the game with a troll default page/wrong 1. In fact even if I wanted to build a troll page, you can't even be free to do that since it just switches it to another and whatever happened to those challenger sayings where, you don't need runes/masteries to play well in the game, these reforged force you to play with em.

PopcornBunni1 votes

Don't forget the loss of defensive masteries as well.

Fearless (Burst and poke protection) Siegemaster (Defense against tower dives) Tough Skin (protection from autos) Legendary Guardian (3-15 AR and MR)

Fearless is getting kind of brought back finally, so we'll see how things go from there.

Death by Glamour1 votes

I agrer we need the base mr back but kog was never broken? Im guessing you never played last sesson

LegitBusinessman1 votes

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I agrer we need the base mr back but kog was never broken? Im guessing you never played last sesson

That was due to ardent, not inherently kogmaw

Death by Glamour1 votes

Kogmaw jungle was because of ardent?

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