Black cleaver needs buffs

Rexxiee··3 votes·448 views

Every bruiser that can avoid building it is doing so because the item is garbage now.

It needs all its nerfs reverted and its build path changed back to what it was.

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ZJD1233 votes

100% agree, they should revert the nerf and make it 30% again.

Oakleaf Ranger3 votes

but then adc's will start abusing it again. I'm not saying your not right. But unless they add some kind of ranged vs melee effect difference then its just going to be the same issue as before the nerfs. The same reason it was even nerfed.

Ralanr1 votes

And any ranged nerfs end up hurting Urgot hard.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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And any ranged nerfs end up hurting Urgot hard.

At this point, they just need to make Urgot count as a melee for the purposes of item effects

Seriously, one of the biggest weakness of Urgot currently is that he can't use many items or item effects because he is a ranged champion

Rexxiee1 votes

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but then adc's will start abusing it again. I'm not saying your not right. But unless they add some kind of ranged vs melee effect difference then its just going to be the same issue as before the nerfs. The same reason it was even nerfed.

Why would they? They have crit now which is good.

Back then ppl builded BC because IE costed 3800 and games ended before they could come online, crit was bad.

Oakleaf Ranger2 votes

They still built crit

The early armor pen just let ADC's melt people earlier. Especially anyone who didn't build any armor yet.

You think the bot lane is overtuned now?

Imagine ADC's having access to that early power again combined with cheaper crit items

xPhantomDancerX1 votes

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