Does anyone feel healing is busted?

GripaAviara·Sep 21, 2017·7 votes·361 views

Full build rumble with thornmail and I can't damage in ulti+q (not talking about kill I'm talking about DAMAGE!) a tristana+soraka. Is completely retarded.,

There has to be a cap to lifesteal+heal

13 Comments

ThePikolSep 21, 20172 votes

It's not grev wound issue. It's that you try to duel Trist + Soraka at full build as Rumble

GripaAviaraSep 21, 20171 votes

Not about dueling .. in team fights have to happen you know?

Aatrox Mid 1v5Sep 21, 20171 votes

item 3123

GripaAviaraSep 21, 20171 votes

Omg, do you know what thornmail does? Exactly the same fking thing

Aatrox Mid 1v5Sep 21, 20171 votes

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Omg, do you know what thornmail does? Exactly the same fking thing

So your gripe is that grevious wounds aren't enough?

GripaAviaraSep 21, 20171 votes

Yes, for some situations

DemonBoneJanglesSep 21, 20171 votes

think about it, grievous wounds only reduces healing it doesn't negate it, you have a few options for the added bump with grievous wounds.

first there is ignite plain and simple it is the earliest form of grievous wounds you can get without items. next is exhaust for the adc it lowers their attack speed and damage thus reducing their lifesteal, also on that end is phantom dancer which reduces damage from your most recently damaged enemy.

next you have thornmail and mortal reminder which both now have grievous wounds I believe

lastly you have the burn effects, liandrys and any DoT ability as well as the item 3165 which is the ap version of grievous wounds (albeit weaker and more situational than the ad version)

if you know someone is building a lot of lifesteal or has powerful healing or regeneration then build for it or use teamwork to take em down, it is after all a team game you cant do everything alone

GripaAviaraSep 21, 20171 votes

It's not about doing alone, is about the fact the highest dps and ranged champion can be damaged by a mage. Like I said, i'm talking about damage, not effectively killing.

Also, what part about having thornmail is hard to get?

DemonBoneJanglesSep 21, 20171 votes

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It's not about doing alone, is about the fact the highest dps and ranged champion can be damaged by a mage. Like I said, i'm talking about damage, not effectively killing.

Also, what part about having thornmail is hard to get?

firstly you must not understand items very well because the tristana had item 3036 , item 3031 , item 3072 , one grants a shield when she surpasses her max hp one crits for 250% damage and the other one makes her deal more damage the more hp you have over her a big 2% per 100 hp difference up to 1000hp difference (max hp btw not current) so figure with your first 3 items you built she was dealing an extra 16% damage so right there your thornmail was damn near useless because it was returning less than half the amount of damage she was likely dealing, In addition she also had item 3087 , and item 3094 which deal magic damage and can crit, so my friend the reason you got melted was because you only built to counter her AD not the combined magic and physical damage

now lets look at soraka who built item 3190 , item 3107 , item 3504 , item 3109 , item 3083 , and item 3512 , she was giving her adc a shield (on top of bloodthirsters shield), extra attack speed (in addition to her q and items) and was healing with every hit that tristana landed on you for 12% of that damage while tanking 12% of the damage you were dealing to tristana. so grievous wounds would have made little difference and there was no issue with the healing or lifesteal, it was you not understanding the item synergy of your opponents [sg-miss-fortune]

GripaAviaraSep 22, 20171 votes

Your point being what? I get the synergy but tell me what do besides being useless and accept defeat

It's not normal. Too much heal, too many shields for a champion that deals insane damage

DemonBoneJanglesSep 22, 20171 votes

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Your point being what? I get the synergy but tell me what do besides being useless and accept defeat

It's not normal. Too much heal, too many shields for a champion that deals insane damage

you know what to do, you said it fine here you need to accept defeat in this instance and try to tackle the problem in a different way, talk with your friends or maybe your team if you have one, worst case you start banning tris or raka in future matches, I never said you were useless.

you simply need to recognize that there are cases when you can simply do nothing but lose, every loss is a lesson and every win is your lessons learned teaching someone else

hope it gets better [slayer-jinx-catface]