PLease nerf twitch already riot, it's not funny

GripaAviara·Nov 4, 2017·63 votes·2,712 views

Seriously, wtf

I'm tired of twitch smurfs that get pentas in 3 sec

Oh look, I'm dead, and I cant do shiet, because even with 150 armor he shreds through me until i get to him. So funny.

25 Comments

Dasdi96Nov 4, 201720 votes

I suggest banning twitch in ranked if you want to win. It seems every booster is using him.

PhantomGGNov 4, 201711 votes

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I suggest banning twitch in ranked if you want to win. It seems every booster is using him.

If you go to reddit, the booster offers are off the charts, more people are paying now more than ever and almost willing to pay any price for it, hell people are paying me good money just to coach them, not even boost.

PePsiLemoNNNov 4, 20171 votes

Coaching is way more valuable than boosting tho?

PhantomGGNov 4, 20171 votes

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Coaching is way more valuable than boosting tho?

honestly no not really unlesss your someone well known, the diamonds have sorta pulled a china in saying "we will work for one dollar an hour" making it harder for everyone else to get good prices for their work. You can get diamond coaches for 5 dollars an hour making it a pain for everyone else. The only reason I make any money is for I make it clear to my clients I refuse to be ripped off and will offer than more than just vod reviews.

k wìxNov 4, 20179 votes

My go-to ban for the past 3 months. Pretty tired of banning twitch.

DuskDaUmbreonNov 4, 20176 votes

And why does he need one?

I'm dead serious. Give me a reason for him to be nerfed.

Oh, and do keep the argument realistic. Just because you couldn't kill him 1v2 means nothing - no matter who you were or who the second opponent was. He's not killing any tank in 3s (given that I actually sat in an entire enemy team for 8s before I died - an essential 1v5). And, no, 150 armor does not mean you're tanky. That's actually the minimum armor to survive Talon (assuming you have some other way to handle him as well, of course) - not the armor required to tank an end-game DPS champion. Especially true if your armor comes from a semi-defensive item (such as item 3157 , which, while a strong defensive mage item, is still an item for squishies), rather than a true defensive one.

stone the blacksNov 4, 20174 votes

"I was hi---" PENTAKILL!

Jerry SeinfeIdNov 4, 20174 votes

150 armor isn't that much though.

for example APbruiser singed: 87.4 armor at lvl 18 in an average game you'll build atleast 2 armor items aside from ninja tabis: item 3047 +30 item 3742 +60 item 3075 +80 = 257.4 armor

Add your level 3 ult to that: 85 armor =342.4 armor.

that's more than double your 150 and you're not even building full tank then, you'll still get item 3116 item 3151 and either item 3001 or item 3027 (not that great on him anymore though)

And last time i checked Twitch, when even, isn't 2 shotting anyone let alone someone with 342 armor. if you're a squishy twitch ult will probably kil you in 3 shots, which gives you time to react to atleast the second or third one.

górdoNov 4, 20171 votes

And last time i checked Twitch, when even, isn't 2 shotting anyone let alone someone with 342 armor. if you're a squishy twitch ult will probably kil you in 3 shots, which gives you time to react to atleast the second or third one.

If you're squishy he's coming out of stealth with bonus attack speed for some reason and then he is using ult to get to you without being touched. Usually you've realised he's there between the first and second shot, and as most squishies have not gap closers (adc and mage perspective) you're basically dead before he auto attacks you a couple times and presses E for like 200 extra damage.

Jerry SeinfeIdNov 4, 20172 votes

i've survived twitch ults as jinx, a squishy with no mobility. It's possible to shut down twitch. Most of the time he'll only get to open fire 2-3 ppl on your team, otherwise your whole team got cced and the enemy team deserves to win that fight.

Every mage (except for some apbruisers and battlemages) has either the range, gapcloser or both needed to get to twitch. Most tanks can get to twitch. I'll admit some melee's might have a difficult time but most of them do have the gapcloser needed.

Not every adc has a dash, but neither does twitch. Jinx, Trist, Kog and Cait can all contest his range, he has more than 3 of them but they still can.

Still his argument is that he build 150 armor so he should be able to facetank him, truth is 150 armor isn't worth much late game.

If you start a fight or get engaged on while twitch isn't there and you get low, you should expect him to be there. He will clean up your whole team if left unattended but so will karthus and i don't see anyone crying about him.

i'm not saying it's easy to beat him, especially if he positions correctly and comes in mid fight while you're busy with other players. But it's possible, and once you're on him he dies fairly easy. If his whole team manages to peel/shield for him it's gonna feel unfair but in reality his team just focused all their resources in one champion. Personally i'm not a fan with how strong item actives (especially shit like the new locket) are becoming, but it is what it is. Twitch might be too strong, ardent/enchanters got nerfed so let's wait for the meta to settle and runes to change before we push him into the gutter.

wei270Nov 4, 20172 votes

i don't know when i play yasuo and there is a twitch i just safe my wind wall for when he pops up it works pretty well for me.

kalima994Nov 4, 20174 votes

Countering cancer with cancer, fair enough

DuskDaUmbreonNov 4, 20173 votes

You could also just use your shield as Braum . Or use your protection as Shen . Or blind him as Teemo . Hell, Quinn or Graves 's blinds would work, too, since it'd stop him from being able to see anyone to attack.

And those are just the things that stop the attack from actually connecting, not all the CC to prevent him from doing anything, or simply bursting him.

kalima994Nov 4, 20173 votes

Tell me how often that happened in your games against twitch

DuskDaUmbreonNov 4, 20175 votes

Like...most of the time I play one of them.

Teemo, just lie in wait for Twitch. Braum, it's the same as Yas. Shen can just press (E>)Q>W and shield his entire team (assuming they're grouped up enough). Quinn's Q has a long enough range to hit Twitch, and I think Graves's E does, too (not certain, ofc.)

And, of course, there are the times I simply CC him (easy enough to do as Ahri , or Leona ), or blow him up with, say, Akali . Long-range nuking him is also a possibility.

PopcornBunniNov 4, 20172 votes

150? Twitch deletes 290 Armor 3200 health in under 2 seconds from stealth .

LankPantsNov 4, 20172 votes

I'd say 150 armour isn't really that much, but he does the same thing to 300-400 armour tanks. He needs nerfs ASAP.

HeimerLmaoNov 4, 20172 votes

Read your post again. It just hurts. Even if you don't know english that good, at least add full stops (.<----- this thing is missing in half of the post) and write names with shift. Twitch not twitch. PLease in the name should be changed into Please. Shiet doesn't exist and you propably meant shit. "Until i (again: I not i) get to him" would mean he stops shredding you as soon as you catch up to him. Before I can even get to him would be more accurate.

ZerdunNov 4, 20171 votes

IMHO he just needs to not have an AOE ult and he'd be fine. Either that or increase his stealth detection range/make his R drop the stealth. and hell while we're at it we can reduce his lane safety by pulling the slow that somehow made it onto his poison toss

MorendabanusNov 4, 20171 votes

That slow has been there for ages, it just got made stronger when they made the stacks slowly build up instead of instantly appearing. His passive was nerfed ages ago at the start of season 7 too, what really needs to change however is not Twitch, but the fact that if you're playing a champ that is melee, and isn't a tank, you are trolling. They're all fucking useless in the current meta, with how quickly adcs can get items, and how impossible it is to get to them through a single Locket shield or just any meta support.

It's just too fucking hard to kill fed adcs for assassins, practically impossible even.

ZerdunNov 4, 20172 votes

The nerf to the slow was more of a sarcasm thing. TBH

While i would like to see twitch get something pulled from his kit I would honestly like to simply see it in his stealth detection range. Stealth in its current design is meant to dodge regular warding to delay information that a champion is coming to you while still giving players a moment to react. Hence the larger radius on stealth for all stealth champs but twitch now.

NiceHPBarNov 4, 20171 votes

Its worse in blind pick where he comes to top/mid lane in 1 minute with a red buff and kills you which by my experiences means at minute 2 your level 1 walking to lane with 0 cs while your opponent in level 3 with 10 cs

kalima994Nov 4, 20171 votes

They don't even have to be smurfs, he's like the old reworked machinegun kog but with less attack speed and safer