Can we finally admit that armor penetration itemization introduced recently is broken in it's core?

Zero Skill Tank·Jul 24, 2016·3 votes·989 views

Every new patch brings us another champion or two that just-so happens to be broken with some combination of . is already on likely-to-be-nerfed in 6.16 list as confirmed by Rioters. Who will be next?

Or maybe, just maybe, we make some changes to those items?

Oh no, that would be bad for so obviously that one's out of question, rite?

At very least Youmuu's could grant 20 penetration for melees, and only 10 or 15 for rangeds.

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CoolKnightSTJul 24, 20162 votes

It's mostly a result because of the meta. Overal the items on their own are far from a problem. It's a combination of them what gives issue's. I have a feeling that it's mostly because of the early tanking power in the jungle that prevents hyper carries from been used. Even tanks like gragas build item 1402 in the jungle. Than you known their is a issue if you can't utilize a controle jungler. I have a feeling the supportive itemastiation is a real problem right now. I rarely see a locket on the jungle or toplane anymore. Frozen Heart is an item that doesn't exist anymore while all these solo lanes & even jungle can get away with a damage build while the adc just goes as tanky as possible.

67chromeJul 24, 20161 votes

Can we finally admit that armor penetration itemization introduced recently is broken in it's core?

Armor penetration is actually pretty weak this season.

In seasons 3~5, you could achieve 55%+30 armor penetration with a item 3071 item 3035 combo, which was the core build for a wide range of AD casters.

Now...45% vs. bonus armor is much worse than 35% total armor, and Black Cleaver requires 6 stacks to reach 30% rather than 4, offering 30% penetration only on the 7th physical damage application rather than the 5th.

You have to build all the armor penetration items in the game for less armor penetration power than was previously avalible, which shoehorns a lot of AD champions into only building armor pen items so they can actually deal with all the tanky assassins, tanky mages, tanky supports, tanky marksman, fighters, and tanks in the game.

is already on likely-to-be-nerfed in 6.16 list as confirmed by Rioters. Who will be next?

That's more of a Jhin problem than an itemization problem.

Especially considering Jhin values AD and armor penetration more than any other stats. Regardless of the state of AD and armor pen, he's always going to build those. His crit/AS conversion exist to make him not feel terrible about a wide range of items, they don't make crit and AS as cost efficient as raw AD in regards to boosting his damage or as useful as armor pen at multiplying his damage.