I hope you understand that this does not apply to certain weeblord champion with particularly oppressive laning phase and that he will need to be hit hard and immediately after those changes go live.
NinjaGuy6983 votesThere's no way that our Riot 
overlords could have made a mistake in game balance. They've been so fair and consistent throughout the years. I'm sure you're just overreacting to this tentative change. Don't let it frustrate you too much. I'm sure everything will be okay in the end.
GGLineaR35 votesI don't 
understand your accent.
EDIT: In hindsight, Vayne probably would've been a better meme, but I hate Riven just a little more.
Pierce The Veal13 votesI don't
EDIT: In hindsight, Vayne probably would've been a better meme, but I hate Riven just a little more.
So I previously made a post about needing 3v3 partners to play some ranked flex. This guy added me, and he had Yasuo, Riven, and Vayne as his top played/higjest mastery champions. I asked him if he wanted to discord, and he warned me that he was 12 in real life but "sounded 15." He sounded like he was 6 on discord. To this day still lmao.
GGLineaR3 votesHe is likely going through his "Edgy Weeb" Phase. Very common with people born around 2000.
Junkο19 votesYasuo isn't even good anymore. Granted with tanks becoming less tanky health wise and Yasuo shredding armor like it's nothing he might become strong again. But I still feel like atm assassins and mages are way better.
Knoyle53 votesIt's not about him being good. It's about him being an annoying pile of shit.
TheSingularity25 votesThat and phantom dancer makes it impossible to fight him
Futanarilover12 votesYasuo isn't even the problem, tanks need to have way to mitigate crit damage in team fights, and adc like Caitlyn or Jinx is just gonna go off.
RexSaur6 votesYasuo isn't even the problem, tanks need to have way to mitigate crit damage in team fights, and adc like Caitlyn or Jinx is just gonna go off.
Caitlyn and jinx are supposed to go off late game.
CRIT ADCS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STRONG LATE GAME
I swear some ppl dont seem to understand this.
NineTailedMystic4 votesWho said anything about late game? Crits still do damage 20 min in. And Crit ADCs shouldn't be unstoppable monsters just because they reached late game.
Sexy Jack Rabbit10 votesThe fucking funniest thing about Yasuo is that his power spike IS NOT DELAYED. He literally hits his powerspike at 2 items. Yasuo literally breaks the rules that Crit champions are supposed to abide by. But her, according to the leak we have a new Yasuo skin coming out, so let's hope that shit comes out soon.
Ariel the Cruel2 votes
Say hello.
To a lesser extend, 
& 
(Probably missing a few. I'm not too big on Right-clickers.)
Sexy Jack Rabbit5 votesShaco, Fiora, and Pantheon aren't crit-based champions. They interact with crit, but technically so can Anivia. I don't know the last time I saw a Pantheon or Fiora building an infinity edge.
Jhin kind of a balancing mess tbh but you are correct.
Ashe is a utility marksman, and besides that Korean build, her crit power spike is delayed. Miss Fortune is just an Armor pen ADC. I don't know how builds Crit-Fortune at this point, but even when she does build it, it takes a while to ramp up.
Ashe and MF don't really break the rules, as they're either building something else entirely, or abiding by them.
Ariel the Cruel2 votesThey can all guaranteed crit starting at lvl 1.
Sexy Jack Rabbit5 votesThere's no problem with that though. You may as well add 
to the list.
Traditional Crit rules are for the champion to reach full potential in the late-game, Yasuo just spits all over that by reaching his mid-game and then just becoming bs late game.
Supreme Senpai691 votesHow can MF crit at level 1? Ashe can with her W but her crits don't deal extra damage so it's not really even a crit. And she's using mana to deal 20 more damage than just using an AA. Jhin can crit level 1 but the enemy sees a giant red bar so if he goes in to use it he'll probably die, and his crits deal less damage than average. Shaco's crits are from backstabbing someone and he totally isn't gonna do that level 1 because he jungles.
And Tryndamere is just a piece of shit
Ariel the Cruel2 votesHow can MF crit at level 1?
When Q kills the first target, it crits the second. They changed it from a raw damage bonus last patch.
Ashe can with her W but her crits don't deal extra damage so it's not really even a crit.
Crit chance is converted into % bonus damage on passive affected targets. Not limited to her W. I wasn't talking about her slow crit.
That's why I filed her under "to a lesser extent."
And Tryndamere is just a piece of shit
Yes. Yes he is.
Hella Kaiser2 votes
1 axe, 1900 dmg crits...
Ariel the Cruel3 votesQ doesn't crit. It just adds raw damage.
In that vain though...
passive crits.
Tumble crits.
Lord Desert9 votesWell the team that works on it clearly had a few drinks to many and/or went insane... Crit Champs are SUPPOSED to have a "delayed power curve" because their powercurves end with a reliable 2,5x dmg multiplier! Which provides enough burst vs squishys and because of the Crit items also a high dps/sustained dmg.
The crit reduction helps to fight against snowballed Crit Champs, like last wisper vs fed tanks. If they now get ahead of their "delayed powercurve" its gg. You now have lower HP, minimal more armor, which will get reduced by 50% and more and no extra crit reduction... all in all tanks get nerfed vs AD(+ new GA).
Ahristocats9 votesIt doesn't matter if it applies to him or not
49% win rate, and is never picked in master+ because he just sucks against competent players
if people could stop the circlejerk it would be a relief
-gH
Mira Arya Enthe9 votesCircle jerking never ends. At this point anti-Riven/Yasuo/ADC rhetoric has become more toxic, annoying and pathetic then the very things they complain about.
Ahristocats3 votes[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HViEMp5Y,comment-id=000a0001,timestamp=2017-04-08T21:04:35.232+0000)
anti-Riven/Yasuo/ADC rhetoric has become more toxic, annoying and pathetic
i don't even think there is a rhetoric in the first place, according to my lectures rhetoric is the art of talking well. But they don't even talk, just qq
That's why you have to main support, you don't find anything frustrating. Except other broken supports
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HViEMp5Y,comment-id=000a0001,timestamp=2017-04-08T21:04:35.232+0000)
ADC
i don't have any problems with adcs, that being said i wish for them to not be meta
and actually, my wish is being fullfied with the new doran shield
i'm just going to try playing darius/morde (who happens to have 64% win rate in the adc role according to leagueofgraph, and for darius only because of me), take preservence+doran shield+maybe hp regen quints and then farm without interacting with them
Bottom Laner2 votes"I have a problem with ADCs being meta in the bot lane." Literally what you just implied
Ahristocats1 votesYes? that is what i said
Bottom Laner2 votes"I don't have a problem with ADCs" "I wish for [ADCs] to not be meta"
Not trying to attack you or make your hatred of me anymore severe, just pointing out the hypocrisy [slayer-jinx-wink]
Ahristocats1 votesyou're still here?
i thought it was clear that i don't have problems when i play against adcs, i'm a janna main right now so idc
and i still wish for them to not be meta so i can support other classes
i'm sorry if i triggered an adc main
Bottom Laner3 votes"triggered" when I said I wasn't attacking you lel
The Last Ballad3 votesFrom what arguments I have read from this person, he tends to rank high on that hypocrisy scale. He sometimes has good points, but his tone. It just screams "condescending 'I'm-smarter-than-thou' douche" or something of that sort. I hope he isn't actually like that(I really do), but the way he speaks is reminiscent to the word choice/tone that the typical "condescending 'I'm-smarter-than-thou' douche" in books does.
It annoys me, and the fact that he is all over the boards right now makes it worse.
Standgrounding13 votesEvery complaint has a reason
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Hella Kaiser7 votesThe reason could be the lack of knowledge from players Or an actual issue in the game.
Anidan5 votesEvery complaint has a reason, but not every reason is worth a complaint.
QuickenedBlade7 voteshis scaling is retarded past 30 minutes is all I've got to say.
Golden Tager X12 votesIt is almost as if he is a lategame champ, and even then he still doesn't scale as hard as Y,i Jax, Or Tryn.
QuickenedBlade24 voteshe goes 0-15 in lane teammate uses a targeted knock up he presses r gets kill ends 30-15
Sexy Jack Rabbit7 votesYi, Jax and Tryn are all extremely telegraphed. Yasuo dashes 4 times, in the period it takes Yi to Alpha Strike once.
Hella Kaiser5 votes[{quoted}](name=gh God,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HViEMp5Y,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-04-08T20:31:33.748+0000)
he just sucks against competent players
the biggest difference between a master player and a silver player facing yas is that the master player has the PATIENCE to deal with yas while the silver player tilts very easily.
the fact that in master+ he has a 49% win rate doesn't change the fact that he's annoying and unfun to play against. when people say that yas is cancer they mean that laning against him gave them cancer because yas is unfun and annoying to lane against. they are not saying that he's op (because he's not) or that he has an overloaded kit (well, kind of). they say that it's not fun to play against him.
AmazoX5 votesthe biggest difference between a master player and a silver player facing yas is that the master player has the PATIENCE to deal with yas while the silver player tilts very easily.
the fact that in master+ he has a 49% win rate doesn't change the fact that he's annoying and unfun to play against. when people say that yas is cancer they mean that laning against him gave them cancer because yas is unfun and annoying to lane against. they are not saying that he's op (because he's not) or that he has an overloaded kit (well, kind of). they say that it's not fun to play against him.
So you are saying that people find him unfun to play against, But you forgot to add that's because 99% of the league player base are low ELO and are impatient and tilt very easily just like you have stated about the mere huge difference between a Masters and Silver player.
is that the master player has the PATIENCE to deal with yas while the silver player tilts very easily.
This^
Also don't forget there is a huge circle jerk going around Yasuo/Riven/Zed every time people are reminded that they exist.
Hella Kaiser6 votesyeah, a master player that's dying inside because of yasuo but can still counter him easily is still dying inside. the problem with low-mid elo players is that they don't only die inside, they also die in-game and rage.
personally yas is just annoying so istead of dealing with him i just freeze lane and only wait for ganks cos i don't have patience for his bs. you woul see me playing only with the mouse ignoring yas and just csing. i know it's not a good idea... but at least i don't tilt. i usually tilt bc of yas when i destroy him in lane and he in some way gets a penta when he was something like 2/14/5... rarely happens recently.
but you have to admit that his kit is a bit overloaded. (just a bit).
Ðelofasht6 votesExcept they have hinted at changing how crit functions. . . Maybe we are looking at a point where it is reliable instead of RNG.
Dank Memes 333 5 votesYasuo doesn't have an oppressive lane phase unless you play like an idiot lol
AirKingNeo21 votesThat's false and everyone knows that. Even high elo players find yasuo pretty strong if not broken.
AmazoX8 votesThat's false and everyone knows that.
No, Only Yasuo biased haters ''KNOW '' that.
AirKingNeo3 votesIt isn't bias if it's the fact he's unbalanced.
I mean even players who have been challenger since season 1 can agree with me.
Its All Skillzz5 votesproblem here is yasuo escaped the ban phase.
Chønklord3 votesHe already got nerfed -10% on crit something or other.
PhDs Nuts33 votes[{quoted}](name=Bôôsted Bonobo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HViEMp5Y,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-08T18:50:20.254+0000)
He already got nerfed -10% on crit something or other.
-10% crit damage with +100% crit chance per item is a huge buff to crit damage early game.
Chønklord24 votesWhatever. He's finnnnneeeeee.
Completely balanced, just like Camille.
58697132DEL115 votesComments like these make me glad your username is accurate at least
Tuffnar13 votesSarcasm, he made it pretty obvious.
