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Let us observe what is wrong with this match

Hibeki·Aug 5, 2016·1 votes·690 views

Lets look here:

https://i.imgur.com/IG8a0gX.png

Ok, first off, we notice that no one banned Yasuo

Second of all, Orianna has smite. Ok, that's not great, but we have better objective control right?

Thirdly, we notice we have a nunu jungle, and not only is he nunu jungle, he built no damage and went full utility.

On top of that full utility, you'll notice that we have zero second turrets, meaning that his lane pushing items did literally nothing for our team

You'll also notice that on top of our normal smite, we have nunu Q, and a second orianna smite, we didn't get a SINGLE DRAGON OR BARON.

What you may not know was before the game started Hecarim WAS ALSO JUNGLE, meaning we almost had THREE SMITES, and he changed last second to go top against yasuo, and feed.

Yes riot, clearly I'm playing with players of my skill, and that the match loss could have been averted if I played better, and that I deserve this LP loss.

Oh wait. I don't.

11 Comments

AstôlfoAug 5, 20165 votes

You didn't do that good either.

HibekiAug 5, 20161 votes

{quoted}

You didn't do that good either.

I wonder why, It could be because we have a none front line jungler with no damage, is not tanky, and can't do anything

or the hecarim top who fed the yasuo early on

or the warwick who can use ult to dive me

or the smite orianna

You cannot possibly compare me to these people.

PheonixwishAug 5, 20166 votes

Everyone had cs and gold on par with you. Pre-game mistakes don't have anything to do with skill.

AstôlfoAug 5, 20164 votes

And you still did as bad if not worse than those people even with all those negative circumstances. What does that say about you?

TorgazAug 5, 20167 votes

looks like dispite all the slag listed there the Oriana and Nunu did better than Jhin anyways

DynikusAug 5, 20164 votes

{quoted}

Lets look here:

https://i.imgur.com/IG8a0gX.png

Ok, first off, we notice that no one banned Yasuo

Not really a big deal. He's not actually the god the boards make him out to be.

Second of all, Orianna has smite. Ok, that's not great, but we have better objective control right?

certainly an odd choice of summoners, but I've seen mid take it before. Sucks, but not that big of a deal. Maybe the forgot to switch it?

Thirdly, we notice we have a nunu jungle, and not only is he nunu jungle, he built no damage and went full utility.

What's wrong with nunu jungle? and despite building no damage, he had almost the same cs as you, had more kills and assists, and less deaths. It doesn't look like nunu is the one to blame.

On top of that full utility, you'll notice that we have zero second turrets, meaning that his lane pushing items did literally nothing for our team

your team not pushing isn't solely his fault.

You'll also notice that on top of our normal smite, we have nunu Q, and a second orianna smite, we didn't get a SINGLE DRAGON OR BARON.

That's unfortunate.

What you may not know was before the game started Hecarim WAS ALSO JUNGLE, meaning we almost had THREE SMITES, and he changed last second to go top against yasuo, and feed.

Would you have preferred he stayed jungle and left top open? I don't think he wanted to feed.

Yes riot, clearly I's playing with players of my skill, and that the match loss could have been averted if I played better, and that I deserve this LP loss.

You win some, you lose some. I'm sure all of the players on your team have won and lost some games as well. Seeing as how you had 5 deaths in that game, it's not like you played an absolutely flawless game and it was just your teammates holding you back.

Oh wait. I don't.

you didn't win, so yeah you do.

ShikigamiAug 5, 20162 votes

It's very hard to explain things to people like you who try and divert blame onto others. So I won't subjectively describe the game's circumstances, however I will try my best to use objective evidence to prove you wrong.

A) Yasuo is not banworthy. Considering his average winrate is 52%, which is respectable, he is far below a lot of meta top laners in relevant divisions (plat + data from champion.gg). Which is why I'm confused why people are willing to ban such a champion. Proof : http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=Top&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

B) Orianna smite is actually a little more common than you'd think. A challenger Orianna main 'Tilterella' mains her mid and takes smite for the early damage boost from Runic Echoes. I'm not going to go into details as to why this works (or works for him specifically), but he is Challenger, and thus it must be a viable strategy for him to be that high rank. Proof : https://youtu.be/o1Wm7Vti3tc?t=3m26s (Relevant section at 3:26. He also plays a lot of sion and sometimes takes ignite on Ori for assassin matchups, but mostly smite)

C) Nunu is a utility based champion... His snowball is good if he gets massive amounts of AP by getting an early lead, which is clearly not the case.

Now for your last relevant point of objective control, the game might not have tilted in that direction from the game you showed. You seem to have lost bot lane. and with Alistar's high amount of assists, he may have roamed middle and picked up a few kills to keep dragons in their favor.

Last thing, your Jhin build is incorrect and innefficient.

cope momentAug 6, 20161 votes

C) Nunu is a utility based champion... His snowball is good if he gets massive amounts of AP by getting an early lead, which is clearly not the case.

hehe...nunu can snowball

DREADN0UGHTAug 5, 20161 votes

The thing about having 2 smites, or 2 tps, or 2 exhausts is that its meaningless if the players don't understand and use the advantage accordingly.

Sure you had 2 smites, but did both smiters position themselves accordingly on the map in order to contest said objectives when the time came?

Its like claiming that you have more ''map pressure'' because you have 2 tps, only to have both holders use it simply to save waves of minions at their respective towers rather than consistently making TP plays to turn fights around, to contest objectives, to counter a gank, to split push...

z14GaKI7TOAug 5, 20161 votes

Your cs was terrible, you did worse than Ori and Nunu AND I (think?) you're building wrong ;p

VolcanuzAug 6, 20161 votes

Man i love Nunu jungles.

Look how hard Vik could push without getting punished because of it, you can see how hard he was pushing by the mid kill cluster which most likely shows that they didn't team fight and most kills were close to tower or under tower. The vik got a little kill happy though and most the time probably backed as his CS is horrible and build path is just stupid unless he thought "fuck it, shit team who cares what i build".

You talk crap about yas but he only got one kill in lane, and most were or seem like counter jungle ganks with WW supplying him with the kills most times. So you can't blame the top laner really as he would be going into jungle to help most the time. Also looks like you guys let yas roam into mid to kill ori a lot too. With all the pressure top lane why did bot lose so hard?

Jhin destroys a Draven with range and clearing minion waves being super easy even under tower, and with a tahm supp you can escape any real danger unless the tahm was a moron who doesn't save W for saving his ADC. Ali is an agressive supp but he was more there for the Yas ult than he was for securing or helping feed draven, and from the looks of draven he was just focusing CS mostly and building stacks. So this means you guys were the ones who started engagments with both meaning you guys either over extended, tried to run, then died near or close to tower, or you guys screwed up SOOOOOOOOOOOOO damn hard you got destroyed under tower.

I am guessing bot was the first tower dead, or mid followed by second mid then top as the toxic nature of your team (you probably instigating it) fell apart and no one helped hold off mid.

Overall you did just as bad probably due to flaming your team and from the rage post it is certain.

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