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Conqueror is a rune that negate itemization. Runes hold too much power/utility.

Kyunsei·8/20/2018, 3:59:51 PM·3 votes·847 views

TL; DR : Runes stole roles/ broke roles by giving too much power/utility accesible to everyone.

Let's start with an example I'm personally concerned with, Tryndamere.

Tryndamere suddenly rise a lot in term of ban, what makes him so un-bearable for people ?

Well, before, even if he started to snowball, you still could play a tank and build defensive item, he then had to build last whisper, that was slowing him down from hard snowballing, as on only AD item isn't that good on Tryndamere.

But nowadays, even if you play a tank and manage to hold him down, if you don't rekt him early, he'll sooner or later counter your itemization and beat you up.

Tryndamere isn't the only champion that works this way, before only Fiora was working this way, nowadays she's barely good, because every bruiser champion stole her role by having access to Conqueror.

The same way goes for Rammus, everyone can be Rammus by running Predator, making basically picking Rammus over Olaf or Skarner a troll pick. And for Fiddlestick, who now only exist as a support because Afterschock makes him a tank, but he's not supposed to be one, so he overlaps other tank that would normally fit this role. Bard, who was a playmaker, is now some kind of burst mage bot. (Eletrocute over-buffed Thunderlord) Ezreal and Kleptomancy. Etc ...

Rune power, and especially utility power, should be toned down quite heavily in pre-season in my opinion.

Or every champion that are in trouble from "role stealing" or "role alteration" (Fiddlestick/Tryndamere) need the Mundo/Nasus/Alistar/etc... treatment, with a lot of add-up to their kit.

So either power creep everything, or tone down Runes.

One is long and hard, and is the way Riot are currently heading (1 rework per month with Nunu) And the other is just a large bunch of number change, and rune deletion/change (Kleptomancy, afterschock back to shielding, Dark harvest, etc ...)

3 Comments

Mordepool8/20/2018, 4:13:32 PM1 votes

If you see 2-3 champs with conqueror. Stack some health

Cotten Eyed Joe8/20/2018, 5:00:15 PM1 votes

Tryndamere is not broken, and neither is FIddle. They both have insane counterplay. In fact, there's been a post about a chinese tryndamere main that complained his champion didn't do anything. This is the case for most tryndamere mains in high elo. there are no tryndamere mains in challenger in KR, there are maybe 4 in NA. With Fiddlesticks, he relies on having a team that has good synergy. Also people pick rammus cause of how tanky he can get, not cause he can roll fast. Olaf and Skarner both lack what rammus has, that's tank stats. A full tank Olaf or Skarner is almost useless. Klepto got nerfed, Bard still is a play maker. This post mostly seems like you got dumpersted by a Tryndamere and a Fiddle somehow and now are complaining about how overtuned they are. There are so many champs that do what Tryndamere does but better, same with fiddle.