Shyvana has the only non-spammable movement ult that can be cancelled.

hashinshin··137 votes·6,940 views

Vi's ult, Hecarim's ult, Sion's ult, Malphite's ult, etc. All non-cancellable and immune to CC.

Shyvana's is not.

A dragon swooping down on you is the least resistant to thresh flaying his whip.

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GundayMonday23 votes

I never understood this. Why can RekSai cancel a dragon with unborrow? Thresh flay is silly too. I think I remember my friend saying Blitzcrank E can cancel it too if you time it right. Silly.

BakedLotion1 votes

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I never understood this. Why can RekSai cancel a dragon with unborrow? Thresh flay is silly too. I think I remember my friend saying Blitzcrank E can cancel it too if you time it right. Silly.

What u mean cancel dragon o.o And also, shyvanas burnout is missing the sound fx qq

GundayMonday6 votes

You can literally bop back Shyvanna's initial charge (the start of her ult) with certain abilities. Here's an example of Rek'Sai doing it: http://youtu.be/XvB0-zs3k2c?t=1m23s

Rikari2 votes

I'm think it can be cancelled like any other dash

GundayMonday19 votes

Oh it definitely can. BUT SHOULD IT??? That's what we're talking about. Why does the dragon get put in the corner instead of BURNINATING THE COUNTRYSIDE???

EasterGoose1 votes

Trogdor shyvana confirmed

GundayMonday1 votes

Could you imagine? I would buy that in a heartbeat.

Captain Aishi6 votes

quinn,s E cancels shyv's ult without quinn taking damage, if you want silly

Thryale9 votes

I can imagine that in a cinematic right now:

Shyvanna transforming and leaping across a large swath of land, Quinn running up a makeshift ramp action hero style, jumping off and vaulting off Shy's head and shooting it full of bolts, sending shy crashing to the ground.

ModWulf Helhammer17 votes

League of Legends: The battle for Jarvan IV

Aarekk2 votes

I ship it.

DUDE BRO4 votes

Yeah anything can cancel it. Nothing should though, I don't care if she needs buffs or it's considered a buff, it's just a silly mechanic that doesn't make sense for her ult and shouldn't happen on any 100s+ long ability.

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

Honestly. I would settle for her carrying enemies the full distance of her dash. The CC is hard enough to optimize without the randomly placed air mail.

4nth0l0gy12 votes

I feel bad for shyvana. Her kit is so underwhelming to me. I wish she actually felt like a dragon when she's a dragon, instead of a hobbling lizard. Like, Gnar feels fucking MONSTROUS when he transforms.

Where's my blazing firebreath? I don't know what these shitty little spittles at the corners of my mouth are, but they ain't dragonfire.

Why isn't my bite really fucking painful when I'm a dragon? I mean I THINK that hurts more than a punch from a human.

Why is my playstyle suddenly more effective kiting backward with my W's trail when I'm a dragon? Shouldn't I, oh I don't know, be a fucking dragon, flying at people and wrecking their shit?

Why am I stuck on the ground after one leap? Don't I have these awesome wings?

I dunno. I think she needs a good rework. One with more flying and more firebreathing. Give her flight over walls and a Vel'koz- (or Viktor-)type fire laser. Maybe that's just me.

PickleBabah3 votes

Yeah, I agree with all of this. Riot somewhat to failed to achieve the themed dragon fantasy.

A Miss Fortune2 votes

Shyvana in dragon form feels as scary and threatning as Lulu with her ult + Elixir of Iron spamming cntrl-4

Eedat6 votes

ShenRengar Ahri Fiddlesticks Pantheon

Weedlayer8 votes

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ShenRengar Ahri Fiddlesticks Pantheon

Shen, fiddles and pantheon are channels, which is a rather different dynamic than a leap. Ahri gets 3 leaps, all of which are faster than shyvana's. Rengar you might have a point. Strictly speaking it's an extension of his passive, and more importantly it's typically not used to jump into the middle of a team the way shyvana's is. But still, it is close.

Auz the Ripper8 votes

Rengar's ult is quite often used to jump into the middle of enemy team

The intelligence of using it that way is debatable But it's still often done

Feathermane5 votes

Malphite's Unstoppable Force can be cancelled by Ahri's Charm. I believe Hecarim's Onslaught of Shadows is the same.

Baron of Bread15 votes

If true that should be a bug, Malphite is supposed to be immune to cc during his ult.

ImHerVoice12 votes

it is a bug. So is j4's ult being charm canceled. it seems bitch ahri bugs out alot of "unstoppable" ults since they started fucking with how CC works.

IcyPepper12 votes

Or maybe she's just that hot.

jk

Revlak Javik4 votes

Sion : NOTHING WILL STOP MEEEEE... Ahri : c'mere, cutie... charm Sion : ooo wanna feel des muscles? dies I thought what we had was special!!! dies for real

EDIT: I don't know if sion's ult is cancelled, but it's still pretty funny...

Carniverous1 votes

I'd love it if He just charged her instead. xD Make a sudden 90 degree turn for her face.

Jarrito2322 votes

They should rename his ult to stoppable force.

It Hertz When IP6 votes

"Almost Unstoppable Force".

A Miss Fortune2 votes

Uncontrollable Force.

TheSlappySlap1 votes

I've been stopped by a Thresh hook as Malphite.

Paress3 votes

And with her kit, interrupting a Shyvana ult is so cancer for her.

I mean, she's completly all in, without controls, so if she goes in, and loses her trade (or ganked), if the ennemy has controls, it's pretty hard to escape because he knows you will ult so you will be interrupted ...

Auryiel3 votes

Swooping down? More like awkwardly flailing her limbs... :|

Borbland2 votes

I cancelled Shyv's ult with a right placed Voli Q.

It needs to be not cancelled, it would be a good buff to her, and she needs it.

Chromatic Eagle2 votes

Can you guys stop talking about her? Do you want Riot to compensate her?

Weedlayer2 votes

I realized I've been posting a lot in this thread without addressing the OP. You're absolutely right. I used to play a lot of shyvana, and she's still my second most played champion with hundreds of games on her, and recently I feel too weak playing her to frequently do so. Her early game is weak in the top lane due to no sustain, decreased E and W damage, and the prevalence of ranged tops. In the jungle she's borderline unviable due to her terrible ganking pressure. Lategame teamfight is all she has, and with every bozo on thresh or ahri interrupting your initiate, she can't even be useful there.

Riot either needs to rework her kit into something they feel comfortable being strong or provide a buff like this.

Tentacle Love2 votes

Vi's ult can be cancelled if she doesn't reach her target before they finish their recall.

Mind you, this is probably because it would be HILARIOUS if it didn't.

Partholonian2 votes

I think it's because it isn't really a movement ult, it's a transform ult that has a movement side effect. If you cancel Malphite ult it wouldn't do anything, which would suck for an ult. If you flay Shyvana out of her dive she's still a dragon, just a slightly further away dragon.

So knockbacks are allowed to be a partial counter to Shyvana, but not a full counter to the other ults you mention.

EnvyDragon2 votes

The difference is that if Shyvana gets most of her ult's benefit whether the movement goes through or not. If you could cancel Vi's dash, you would cancel the punch at the end too... and that's the whole point of Vi's ult. Meanwhile, you knock back Shyvana mid-dash, she's still a big-ass dragon at the end of it.

Honestly, I'd have no problem with it if the dragon-dash was CC-immune, but I don't think she's ruined without it.

Celeste Benal2 votes

Being a "big-ass dragon" doesn't mean jack if you have no CC and no way to get to the target. So she's a bit tankier. oh boy!

Lord OwlBear2 votes

I approve this message, rito get on this

revliledpembroke1 votes

Can J4 be knocked out of his ult? I thought I read somewhere that, if timed correctly it's possible. Because I think a man crashing so hard into the ground he forms an arena around himself and his foes is another one that shouldn't be canceled. Maybe it can't be, I don't know

Weedlayer2 votes

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Can J4 be knocked out of his ult? I thought I read somewhere that, if timed correctly it's possible. Because I think a man crashing so hard into the ground he forms an arena around himself and his foes is another one that shouldn't be canceled. Maybe it can't be, I don't know

It's non cancelable. According to the wiki "Jarvan has disable immunity for the duration of the leap."

Goosetard2 votes

most abilities have a non-zero channel time, and channels can be interrupted

Fed by Snu Snu4 votes

Yes.

I actually had it happen a couple days ago.

But it's a bit weird.

If the ultimate starts, then it will happen. Nevertheless, as with most skills like that, it has an initial really small cast time, in which he can be stopped from doing it.

Same way you can interrupt a Vi ultimate.

The time window is so small that it's pure chance that it happens though.

Weedlayer1 votes

Did it eat your cooldown?

Fed by Snu Snu1 votes

No, it did not and should be the same for similar cases.

RogueWill4 votes

With Vi ult you actually eat CD. It is sorta annoying but it almost never happens so is not big deal.

Carniverous1 votes

It is a little funny now that you mention it.

But one of my highlights for league, was getting a LeeSin Dragon Kick to my Shyvana face mid flight.

Celeste Benal1 votes

Lee Sin's Dragon Kick vs Shyvana's Dragon's Descent. Lee Sin wins? wtf Riot. Makes no sense.

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