know why? because as soon as all these items and champions get nerfed guess who's going to be sitting firmly on top again?
this whole game is a balancing MESS right now.
Ralanr2 votesThe OP assassins will deal with them. Because that's the other complaint on these boards.
And as a tank player, I am very happy for the Fiora and Yi nerfs.
AMYS GRAVE2 votesYou do realize that those adcs have been abusing juggernaut itemization too, which is part of the reason for the item nerfs.
Its All Skillzz2 votesYou do realize that those adcs have been abusing juggernaut itemization too, which is part of the reason for the item nerfs.
http://imgur.com/JH8EBpf i have no clue what you talking about who would build an adc with tank stats?
AMYS GRAVE2 votesIts almost like ADCs get focused down so getting maw/steraks/frozen mallet helps keep them alive through the assassins.
Critmaster Garen1 votesIts almost like ADCs get focused down so getting maw/steraks/frozen mallet helps keep them alive through the assassins.
whats supposed to keep them alive is proper positioning and peel from their team. you know. the tradeoff for having the highest possible damage in the game from considerable distance after a certain point.
Critmaster Garen1 votesthe sad part is, that juggernauts arent even directly targeted with the nerfs. its just collateral damage from trying to nerf those items on melee adc, marksmen and assassins.
it sickens me that they chosed the worst option and nerf the items instead of putting more limiters on them, so theyre only useful for health stacking champions, and targeting the abuse cases (fiora with titanic hydra and steraks) by changing their scalings more towards ad stacking.
and of course, juggs are not getting direct compensation buffs either for no reason.
Big Lincoln1 votesif we're being entirely honest with ourselves, juggernauts aren't really that well designed and have kind of proven to be an issue, especially immediately after the reworks. i can see why riot won't buff them when, IMO, Darius and Nasus are the 2 of the group that's got good design to them
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xjtZmHn7,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-03-12T03:45:30.210+0000)
if we're being entirely honest with ourselves, juggernauts aren't really that well designed and have kind of proven to be an issue, especially immediately after the reworks. i can see why riot won't buff them when, IMO, Darius and Nasus are the 2 of the group that's got good design to them
except for morde who has issues due to his new position, theyre very well designed.
all that happened was their overtuned numbers at release, that quickly have been evened out. they were op for like 2 weeks befor they were in a good spot. the marksmen rework leaves them and their items broken after month.
and yes, that includes lcs teams building teamcomps around darius. i dont see a reason why it should be a problem for a team to focus a teamcomp around darius carrying, when theyre allowed to do the same for kog maw and twitch and basically any marksman.
C9 Scott Free 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xjtZmHn7,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-03-12T04:27:06.079+0000)
except for morde who has issues due to his new position, theyre very well designed.
all that happened was their overtuned numbers at release, that quickly have been evened out. they were op for like 2 weeks befor they were in a good spot. the marksmen rework leaves them and their items broken after month.
and yes, that includes lcs teams building teamcomps around darius. i dont see a reason why it should be a problem for a team to focus a teamcomp around darius carrying, when theyre allowed to do the same for kog maw and twitch and basically any marksman.
#RatballCompEveryGame
Big Lincoln1 votesexcept for morde who has issues due to his new position, theyre very well designed.
and skarner, and illaoi, and i'll be honest I think Garen's villain passive is a stupid mechanic
I think Darius is a really good design because his power spike is based around actual gameplay and not RNG punishing people for playing well or arbitrary objectives. it's actual interaction between Darius and his opponents that I think was really well-handled and hope that more Juggernauts have in the future
