Obvious, right? Apparently not, since 
has become not only an appealing pick, but a core powerspike on champs like 
and 
because the Essence Flare passive is just too broken to pass up. Can the item be looked at? Being able to build URF mode in a normal match isn't healthy.
You forgot 
He likes it too.
I don't see the problem. The item is intended for AD spellcasters. It's pretty similar to buying Trinity Force on champions like Gnar, Morde, Riven, etc. Even though Sheen builds off managers, the spell blade passive is still really good.
If the item itself is broken, then it can be balanced.
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Obvious, right? Apparently not, since
Essence reaver was so much better as a mana sustain item for ADCs. I really enjoyed building it on Varus as it gave me a nice power spike and some crit to go along with my damage.
It's not really a mana sustain item anymore, just an item that has mana sustain.
Calling ER a mana sustain item is like calling 
a mana item, or 
a health item. Yeah it has that stat, but nobody buys it for that reason. It has it incidentally, not as the core purpose.
surely no one decent actually builds this on tryndamere lmao
ER was introduced as the mana sustain item, but then people realized that mana sustain part actually sucks, and the 30% cdr (and currently essence flare) is much better anyway.
You act like this is the only instance of this ever happening. Akali quite often builds lich bane. A LOT of manaless champions have bought Trinity Force, etc etc. If the benefit outweighs the cost, it has pretty much ALWAYS been an option. You're wasting stats if you do this, but it's ALWAYS a cost vs benefit thing. Also keep in mind this is a pure damage item. Riven is a skirmisher. If she builds this she's not building something else(Generally in this case Black Cleaver and juggernaut items, because this item is more for upfront burst for her). This means she will die much easier. ADCs also aren't SUPPOSED to be building 
, but let's look at Ezreal for a second who breaks every new item at some point and has been building this for years. >>;
i've never seen any decent tryndamere player build essence reaver. i see it used to decent effect mostly on riven, jax, fiora, and renekton
Well its not really a mana sustain items. That function easily takes a back seat to it's other passive which is what everyone actually builds it for
how is that not okay but gauntlet ezreal is? why cant some1 build an item that works on the champ that they like dafuq?
URF is the future of LoL... :-/
Tryn doesn't build ER what the hell?
It's suboptimal on him at best
You meant to say Jax or something?
ER is a fucked up item.
I honestly feel like essence flare is completely unnecessary and ruins the purpose of Essence Reaver. It'd be better going back to lifesteal, or heck giving it a small value of attack speed constantly rather than after ulting. The item is intended for people that desire CDR and mana. Essence flare is just "complex fancy passive for complexity's sake" and would honestly fit much better as a weekly game mode / nexus blitz item effect.
Issue is how Riot changed Essence Reaver into this type of item. It is best for top lane bruisers. It used to be a staple item for certain adcs, including xayah, sivir and lucian. Remember the f-up of patch 8.11? It destroyed the entire class of adc's, sigh. Hopefully Riot can just revert the item to the way is it.
Feel free agree to disagree to my opinion.
I'm not seeing Essence Reaver Riven even being that good. If she's building to kill in one combo she's not making use of the essence reaver passive anyways. Basically, she's just using 70AD and 20% cdr. Same with Tryndamere, I never see it built on him either. Checked OPGG and Champion GG and it's not seeing high pick rates if any.
Why does this have so many upvotes neither of these champions build this item.
Honestly riven can basically non-stop spam her abilities w/o essence reaver so I seriously think the item's effects on her are a bit over-hyped. Sure she gets SOME use out of it, but nowhere near what a renekton or jax would get. Essence reaver gives renekton the cd's he deserves w/o having to build the item late game. But alas if you aren't fiora or an aa-based melee (yi, yas, jax) or an adc you aren't given a fair shake. Saying that, what I've said before and still think is that renek needs those cd's lowered by rank 5 to more closely reflect his cd's with essence and that the item needs to better reflect it's intended purpose of restoring mana.
Trynda was building the old ER, not this one.
I've found that Yi and Jax are the best users.
Riven already spams heavy, so completely transforming into Yasuo is not that big change.
But URF Jax and Yi are top tier, because they - can't be hit or permastun (while invisncible to autoattacks).
I think that there will always be champs that will work better with certain items, you can't avoid this. Nerfing the champ is the only solution - as they have done this in the past (most often because of rune interactions)
This is why adcs cant have nice things. Bruisers or ad assassins abuse it 
What?
I play a shit ton of and no one builds this shit, most ppl build for the CDR as a 4th item
Don't make shit up
yeah I feel the change is kinda dumb it went from a marksmen item to a bruiser item and the ones that take it dont even use a whole part of the item its not really that is OP it just doesn't make sense.
i love playign vs riven and she has a 6 second 300-500 hp sheild, then ults and that sheild is on a 3 sec cd its impossable to outplay
It should give you CDR based on your max mana so it'd synergize with 
Items aren't about stats anymore, they're about their r%%%%%ed passives.
