syndra needs help, and idk how to fix her...

SwiftKitten88··1 votes·736 views

i haven't mid laned since season 7, but as a player who loved to play Orianna Ziggs Syndra (and Lux and Morgana both of which i still play bot as supports)

oit does make me sad to see Syndra in such a shitty spot

and most of the issue is because her ulti get absolutely GUTTED by item 3194

now i really dont know a way around this honestly, so i cant provide a suggestion.

unless you make syndra ulti a special case to not get reduced as much idk how u can fix this. becuase u cant buff they damage or it wil be too strong... but its too weak vs item 3194 .. but item 3194 needs its current strength to face other ap champs like Cassiopeia who would be completely broken if item 3194 got nerfed

so.. does ne1 have any idea.

the closest thing i can come up with is to give each sphere beyond the 3rd an incrementally increasing % amount of true damage. which would help bypass item 3194.

but i was wondering if anyone else had any other ideas.

i need someone to help brainstorm. and bounce ideas off of.

2 Comments

Ghazter1 votes

"Let's fix <champion> by adding true damage to their abilities!"

No, no, no, bad.

I don't see what you're worried about here; since when do carry midlaners build item 3194 ? Sure, it counters a lot of midlaners, but building item 3194 sacrifices damage. I don't know a single midlaner that builds item 3194 , especially against a Syndra .

I feel like a item 3151 or magic pen items would counter item 3194 . Also, isn't item 3194 cancellable? For instance, couldn't you just hit them with a spell to get rid of its passive and then use ult?

SwiftKitten881 votes

well syndra ulti hits up to 7 times (based on how many orbs u have you basally reduce her ulti damage by 20% which makes it complete trash.

now i dont like adding true damage in general either. but do u have any better ideas?

if i thought my idea was "perfect" i wouldn't be asking to brainstorm with other people, and i wouldn't have "but idk how" in the threat title"

but flat out buffing the damage on her ulti would be worse than adding true damage

making it easier to do a 6/7 sphere ulti would be worse, we have already tested that thoroughly.

nerfing item 3194 woudl break other champions

so idk what else to do

the best thing i could come up with was % true damage like 25% 50% 75% and 100% on orb 4, 5, 6, 7

the vast majority of her ultimate will only be 4 or 5 stars

so the 3 three orbs would be full magic and 4 would be 75% magic and 5 would be 50% magic.

yeah its not perfect... but i don't have any better ideas.

even on a 7 sphere ulti it would be roughly equiviant to 3 true damage orbs out of the 7

and a 6 sphere would be 2 true damage orbs out of the 6.

which now that i think about it does seem like too much because we are trying to counter 20%

so obviously 25/50/75/100% on orbs 4-7 is too high.. but the idea is to incrementally increase it for each orb. and i would need to do some mroe math to come up with better %'s

but it was the best idea i can come up with...

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