Is it me or do mages fall off hard late game?

6 item cass azir kass ryze viktor oriana veigar are no joke

that would depend on the mage... some mages like def do not fall off in the late game at all whereas something like tend to not have the greatest of late games

Yes they fall off so hard http://imgur.com/RHX0orM as you can clearly see in this picture here, poor Ziggs fell off so hard in late game being a manaless champion with infinite wave clear and poke against a team with not much engage.

Imo Ziggs should've been allowed to build 7th item since assassins carry too hard in the late game compared to weak and underpowered mages.

Did I also mention that mages have zhonyas and assasins have hexdrinker? So broken.

Yes tanks are out of control right now

The few mages that could actually touch tanks like Brand, Cassiopeia etc... have all been made irrelevant by adaptive helm. AD like Jhin or Draven can chunk off all your hp with 1 crit by late game.

They need to do something about tanks like Galio, Zac, and Maokai being able to dive mages with hyper mobility and then taking no damage at all just because they build 1 adaptive helm.

it is just you. mages are supposed to be good at all points in the game. tanks bad mid game. assassins bad late. marksmen bad early. some champions bend that with being good at different times. but mages have strong base dmg in lane. scaling options. and unique kits

Some of them do, like other champions in other classes, there are those who scale into late and those that kind of just pray to end the match by mid game.

That's how it's been since the beginning of League. The way scaling typically works, with a couple exceptions groups in each role, is:

Tank- Useful from Start to Finish, but Cannot Carry a Game Alone Support- Strong Early Game, Moderate Mid-Game, Questionable Late Game (usually becomes reliant on allies late game) Fighter- Strong Early Game, Moderate Mid-Game, Weak Late Game Assassin- Useful from Start to Finish, but Becomes Stronger Against Squishies and Much Weaker Against Durable Targets Marksman/ADC- Weak Early Game, Moderate Mid-Game, Strong Late Game Mage- Moderate Early Game, Strong Mid-Game, Weak Late Game

As I said, the game has become less strict to this rule, but when in doubt, this is usually how each roles pulls out. Also, it should be noted that Mage is the only class to be considered very strong Mid-Game based on these typical rules, which is why they never usually completely disappear from the meta unless Assassins or Tanks become overbuffed and become just as strong Mid-Game as well as during other sections of the game.

As for the specifics as to why Mages typically fall off, it is because by then most Fighters, Tanks, and select Supports on the enemy team have gathered a good amount of Health and Magic Resist. Unlike with Physical Damage, Health actually counters Magic Damage a ton since most Magic Damage is dealt on a cool down or in burst, meaning that if your health exceeds a Mage's burst, they usually can't kill you as long as you don't stick around or heal up. Once late game hits, a good half of the enemy team at least will usually be tanky enough to survive a Mage's burst, meaning the only characters a Mage can typically kill on the enemy team during the late game are Marksman, Mages, Assassins, and select Supports. That sounds like a lot, but Mages and Assassins typically share the same team space, meaning in reality that's only about 2.5 of the roles in the game being able to be killed by a Mage. Furthermore, Mages won't typically be able to outright burst a Marksman against a decent team since a Fighter or Tank on the enemy team can peel very well for their Marksman, meaning the kill potential of a Mage drops off drastically. Basically, once most of the enemy team can't be killed by a Mages burst, the Mage's usefulness drops off considerably unless they have TONS of crowd control.

Damage type mages do fall off a bit, because Tanks are really good right now and its Adc's that are supposed to kill them anyway.

Adc's can outplay mages and burst them really hard with their crits, but Mages can do it aswell, so they both threaten each other. But Mages will win till ultra late game.

Overall, i think mages are dominant in Lategame. One stray AoE spell and sometimes 100-30 an Adc.

Utility Champs like Ori or special mages like Karthus thrive in the Lategame. Their damage is insane, the Utility they bring to the table is enourmos. Or the waveclear Champs like Viktor and Anivia have.

I think Mages are the most versatile role, so its hard to say.

Champs like Annie and Heimer definetly fall off, or AP Karma falls off really hard.

Items don't have enough AP anymore. Mages deal 0 damage to tanks and teams who know how to build MR. is only good because of her ability to stay relevant through utility. Syndra is just overtuned.

Some do and some don't.

scale really well into the late game, while fall off.

don't fall off.

It's the natural result of Riot trying to find a way for supports to scale into the late game.

Midgame your rotation does 600 aoe damage and 500 additional single target damage and they put a 150 damage shield on their adc.

Late game mages do 750 aoe damage and another 900 single target and supports shield for 600 aoe and another 600 on their adc along with the adc having more mr, probably some dr from Knight's vow, and the lifesteal to heal back to full in 5s through grievous wounds.

Given that they also get more movespeed, peel, and body blocking from their allies allowing them to more easily avoid your damage in the first place, and the fact that they can three-hit you if you get in their auto-range, it's no big surprise that mages feel less impactful late game than mid game.

They're still really valuable in a teamfight when played correctly, though. Not quote hut almost essential.

Mages tend to have a pretty linear scaling, due to the fact that their abilities scale on like on stat, AP. Compared to most ADC's who DPS multiplies by AD, AS, and Crit chance.

Also with Tanks back in the meta, it's difficult for a Mage to out right kill a Tank, (Even with Void staff) Unless they are a battle mage with a decent amount of DPS. Otherwise, your main focus needs to be on the glass cannons.

It's you.