Nerf ADC mobility across the board

GreyfellD··2 votes·1,284 views

ADC's are supposed to be ranged casters and have WEAKNESSES in mobility and health. That was how they were originally designed, look at Ashe she has NO MOBILITY AT ALL on her kit, which gives her a balanced weakness, good damage for low mobility... BUT...

Every other ADC and their mother gets free MS boosts, dashes, jumps, blinks or some other form of mobility and its only gotten worse and worse and worse since the game has gone on.

Everybody says that ADC is a "hard" role. I'm sorry, I don't see that when you are Jhin who gets free MS boosts out the ass and also has insane damage, especially one way of dealing damage that is a point and click. ADC's also never miss, they auto-attack and always hit their target unlike other classes that need to aim or position but if an ADC misses their abilities, they can just walk right up to a target (with his free MS boost) and one shot them. I've seen Jhin do this to teammates MULTIPLE times.

This is not a hard concept Riot... champions NEED weaknesses and "just being squishy" is not an excuse. Mages are squishy but most of the less player, almost unviable ones have no means to chase or retreat.

Riot is just making the game too forgiving for ADC's because they know that they are the playerbase that will cry the most and have fragile egos. This is exactly why they added AD onto item 3026, an item that was used by ADC's but had a CLEAR cost because it wasn't originally an AD item. I don't remember Riot adding AP back to item 3025 because some mages like to build it.

I am so sick of this double standard... and pandering to the less mature part of the playerbase.

12 Comments

usul12024 votes

Ah yes, Caitlyn Draven Jinx KogMaw Sivir Twitch Varus Xayah, such mobility.

Most adcs are actually reasonably cooldown reliant, like trists q/e, koggles w, caits w, dravens q, xayahs e, kaisas w, etc. Playing around these creates windows of opportunity, just like a mage or assassin. The effect of these windows being down reduces throughout the game, which is why adc is almost always relevant; you give them scale time and their weaknesses decrease. If you want to invalidate adcs, shorten game times, and listen to the boards bitch for a patch about short game times.

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

Ashe has no mobility because she slows on every auto attack, has a wide AoE skillshot slow, and a map wide stun. If you want to give every other adc abilities like that, then sure, they can lose mobility.

There is no rule that ADCs can’t be mobile (and in fact, in order for them to work properly, they need high movement speed, for kitting. That’s why the zeal items all give movement speed).

Frosted Tips2 votes

Only marskman with issues IMO are Kalista (part of the reason she is gutted) Kaisa (too long of invisibility) Tristana (W is one of the most broken abilities in the game IMO) yup and that is it.

Jhin is just stupid right now he doesn't even deserve to be mentioned because his is completely ridiculous.

CIayman2 votes

No lol

saltran1 votes

This, but unironically.

Inkling Commando1 votes

the only champs with high mobility "issues" is Jhin with every crit Jinx on a takedown or turret takedown, MissFortune with her W, Tristana with her W, Teemo with his W, Quinn with her ult, and if you want to count him Corki with his Passive. Caitlyn is slow as hell, Ashe is fairly balanced not too slow not too fast, and the others i have not tried yet.

JoeAnarchy1 votes

~laughs in Ashe Caitlyn Draven Jinx Kalista KogMaw Sivir Twitch Varus Vayne Xayah all this mobility they have...

edit: granted vayne and twitch turn invisible, but they don't have overall mobility/escapes

Dethflash3 votes

Caitlyn E is a small dash, Draven W gives him MS and AS, Jinx passive gives her crazy MS and AS, Sivir ult its a massive giant aoe team MS boost, Vayne Q small dash, Twitch Q gives him a small MS boost and stealth, Xayah W gives her MS if she is attacking a champion, and do you even know what Kalista does? Her passive is unlimited dashes every time she autos. Literally only Kog, Ashe, and Varus dont have any MS boost, dashes, stealth, or abilites that makes them untargetable. Im not agreeing with the original post, but just a suggestion you should understand what the adcs do before you try to start an argument and make yourself look silly. Have a great day! best of luck in your games!

JoeAnarchy2 votes

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Caitlyn E is a small dash, Draven W gives him MS and AS, Jinx passive gives her crazy MS and AS, Sivir ult its a massive giant aoe team MS boost, Vayne Q small dash, Twitch Q gives him a small MS boost and stealth, Xayah W gives her MS if she is attacking a champion, and do you even know what Kalista does? Her passive is unlimited dashes every time she autos. Literally only Kog, Ashe, and Varus dont have any MS boost, dashes, stealth, or abilites that makes them untargetable. Im not agreeing with the original post, but just a suggestion you should understand what the adcs do before you try to start an argument and make yourself look silly. Have a great day! best of luck in your games!

but compared to Jhin Kaisa MissFortune Tristana they are heavily immobile.. these champs can just proc this free movement speed for almost nothing.. Jhin just get his crit, Kai just press E, MF just press W..

Caitlyn - small dash, always backwards, no inherit speed boost Draven - you got me there, i didn't know his had a MS boost, i admit i'm wrong there, but i'm willing to bet it isn't as high as MF or Kai'Sa.. Jinx you have to kill something first.. that is not an escape/mobility.. when i'm talking mobility i'm talking in combat and unconditional.. i really don't understand why her passive is argued to be her escape.. Sivir - actually didn't mean to put her in my list, i must have just been grabbing ADCs, again my bad.. Vayne Twitch - again yes they turn invisible, and have some mobility but are still highly immobile, but are definitely the more mobile options here. Xayah - i've literally never noticed any MS increase.. Kalista - yes she's the kite queen, but it's not super mobile.. it's small hops and can easily be chased down.

Hayaishi2 votes

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but compared to Jhin Kaisa MissFortune Tristana they are heavily immobile.. these champs can just proc this free movement speed for almost nothing.. Jhin just get his crit, Kai just press E, MF just press W..

Caitlyn - small dash, always backwards, no inherit speed boost Draven - you got me there, i didn't know his had a MS boost, i admit i'm wrong there, but i'm willing to bet it isn't as high as MF or Kai'Sa.. Jinx you have to kill something first.. that is not an escape/mobility.. when i'm talking mobility i'm talking in combat and unconditional.. i really don't understand why her passive is argued to be her escape.. Sivir - actually didn't mean to put her in my list, i must have just been grabbing ADCs, again my bad.. Vayne Twitch - again yes they turn invisible, and have some mobility but are still highly immobile, but are definitely the more mobile options here. Xayah - i've literally never noticed any MS increase.. Kalista - yes she's the kite queen, but it's not super mobile.. it's small hops and can easily be chased down.

I guess you haven't played against Kalista if you think she is easy to chase down

saltran1 votes

I mean, she can kite really well but it just needs a slow to make her useless

CIayman2 votes

A funny time we play in when large movement speed steroids and low-cooldown rolls aren't considered mobility

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