Yorick and Illaoi should have been mages.

Ok sure but why··2 votes·808 views

What do Illaoi, Yorick and mages have in common? They're well within their rights to harass melee champions from afar.

What do Illaoi and Yorick have that mages don't? If you close the gap on them, they just get even stronger and refuse to die.

I know they're "juggernauts." But like Morde, Garen and Darius, juggernauts are supposed to be melee-based and kiteable. Sure, Illaoi and Yorick are melee champions, but Illaoi can just sit behind her wave of minions and spam her E all game, because every time she hits you with her E, you've basically lost your lane for the next 10 seconds. Yorick literally only has ONE ability that's melee range, while everything else can be done from afar. If they know they can't kill you, they just keep harassing until the end of time. But once you're low enough, they can easily initiate an all-in on you. And Yorick's ult, holy shit. Yorick is like an actual SKUNK. If he feels even slightly threatened, he just ults, spams his M7, laughs and runs away. You might think, "Haha, I baited out Yorick's ult." But then it starts attacking you. And it won't stop attacking you. It just doesn't stop! You wanna try to kill it? He'll just start harassing you with the rest of his kit from a safe distance to punish you for it. You wanna just let it push to tower before safely disposing of it? Good luck, because the thing will keep on attacking you, and the turret won't change agro for it. It'll just keep hitting that siege minion while the Maiden keeps on whittling you down. That's sure fun and interactive.

Juggernauts are supposed to be strong but able to be played around. Mages are supposed to be squishy but more safe.

Yorick and Illaoi get the pros from both and the cons from neither.

3 Comments

ZephyrDrake3 votes

Highly telegraphed attacks or slow moving short ranged projectiles... if an Illaoi or Yorick are beating you due to their ranged harass then it's on you

SeductiveCelery2 votes

wouldnt you contend that champs like darius and garen dont need range as they can force engages in the first place?

like I have 180k on illaoi and her weakness' are very clear. she is EXTREMELY SHIT when behind and additionally cannot handle ranged matchups like champs like darius and yorick can

ModCaliCoastReplay1 votes

Don't get hit by her E. Easier said than done against a good Illaoi, but to be honest, it's just like Darius. Past a certain point, if they hit the hook, you've lost half your life bar. Wave management really helps with this. Stay behind your wave. She can't hit you with her E if you're behind another unit. It's also a slow-moving projectile and an immediate side-dodge almost always causes it to miss, if you're fast.

What makes life more difficult against her is her brutal waveclear. Unlike a lot of juggernauts, Illaoi is capable of utterly demolishing waves in seconds by midgame if she chooses to push at full speed. A good player will often W first against another melee champ and start the lane with 2-3 tentacles if possible, which gives insane damage onto the wave if she wants it, and only really off-meta tops can match that - and once she starts clearing out waves fast enough, she gets lots of open shots on her E. If any aspect of her kit is broken, I'd say it's that.

Vayne TeemoQuinn just ruin her, by the way. Teemo Quinn have blinds - Illaoi's W is an autoattack, the prime source of her damage, and her trigger for her tentacles, and if it misses she's in bad trouble - whereas Vaynecan immediately tumble out of her E, and all 3 can shoot her tentacles apart at will and reduce duration on her E from range with basic attacks - you get 1 second off the spirit per basic you land while it's up - often avoiding the curse. (Jayce, while lacking the utility of the above 3 champs, is also a good counterpick.)


-This has been your friendly "how to deal with my broken champion" PSA from an Illaoi player

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