This Just Isn't Fun Marksmen Champions are Borderline Pointless To Play

BrightWîngs··7 votes·1,906 views

Already know I'm gonna get the oh I'm just a whiny ADC player but this just isn't fun at all in the all the games I've played I've seen like maybe 3 marksmens botlane. I cant really play any of the champions I like anymore because they are just so darn weak it takes too long to scale now. I cant believe I'm saying that, all I want is for the games to go late game but they never do they are just one team completely shitting on another games are rarely close anymore and rarely go over 25 minutes and since the games dont go on really past 25 minutes no ADC is going to scale unless they get an big lead. At the end of the day Id be fine bruisers botlane but the thing is they are just so damn cheese got Darius over here taking summoner 3 and Mordekaiser doing the same shit then they pair up with another engage support and you go in saying well at least I have the range advantage but that just cant solo win you the lane its just not that easy. Take this pair for an example: Leona Darius and you're playing say Ashe you got a CC ulti 600 attack range and auto attacks give a small slow so you can kite the Darius pretty well but the problem here isn't just straight up fighting they have so much kill pressure by just standing there you get hit by Leonas E or R you are 99.99% of the time just dead and to top it all off since you're so weak early it takes forever to even kill half the bruisers even with press the attack now Im not really here to complain about bruisers being OP thats not what I'm trying to say I want to play the class of champions I spent so much time on because why play a marksmen and make it harder on yourself when you can just play something like Jax with summoner 3 or summoner 14

Of all players that I would think who would understand are the bruiser players Riot basically made your class unplayable because you didn't have a viable keystone well now they made marksmen so weak that no one see the point in playing them the situations are not very different.

Anyway, let me know what you guys think.

Edit: Thank all those who were helpful :)

9 Comments

Malza2 votes

If you’ve only seen 3 marksmen in bot lane since 8.11 then you’ve probably only played two games since the patch.

BrightWîngs1 votes

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If you’ve only seen 3 marksmen in bot lane since 8.11 then you’ve probably only played two games since the patch.

The entire time I was playing that day

D2T Undeeds2 votes

ADC buffs are planned for 8.13, expect more info on that in today's Quick Gameplay Thoughts

BrightWîngs1 votes

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ADC buffs are planned for 8.13, expect more info on that in today's Quick Gameplay Thoughts

Thank you for letting me know did not know about this

Promising Garden2 votes

It's easy to predict which team will win, based on the amount of marksmen they have. The more marksmen, the less likely the win.

It does happen, but it's rare AF.

Ok sure but why2 votes

I dunno, the IE change has made playing ADC soooo much more bearable, since I can finally do damage to all those tanks that just love diving my ass

Although I've seen way too many Jinx players rush the Stormrazor like complete monkeys, but that's just people's stupidity that makes the ADC they're playing bad

BrightWîngs1 votes

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I dunno, the IE change has made playing ADC soooo much more bearable, since I can finally do damage to all those tanks that just love diving my ass

Although I've seen way too many Jinx players rush the Stormrazor like complete monkeys, but that's just people's stupidity that makes the ADC they're playing bad

I love the new IE but the problem is it takes so long to get going and the games barely last long enough for it to even matter

Elkington VI1 votes

Try prioritizing more CDR and armor penetration in your build. Just skip BF sword upgrades until mid game unless you get a significant early lead. The armor pen will help keep your damage relevant and the CDR will allow you to use your utility skills more often and kite a bit easier.

It definitely works with Ashe at least, because people use to run that build with her on Dominion, which was pretty much an assassin haven (and adcs were always the weakest class).

BrightWîngs1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Elkington VI,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xWohRv5w,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-14T08:33:56.646+0000)

Try prioritizing more CDR and armor penetration in your build. Just skip BF sword upgrades until mid game unless you get a significant early lead. The armor pen will help keep your damage relevant and the CDR will allow you to use your utility skills more often and kite a bit easier.

It definitely works with Ashe at least, because people use to run that build with her on Dominion, which was pretty much an assassin haven (and adcs were always the weakest class).

Yeah I was starting to do stuff like that like getting Bork first item on just about everyone thank you for the advice

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