Can we please stop pretending Ornn is bad?

Niyumi·Oct 9, 2017·6 votes·603 views

Just... stop. I don't want another repeat of Poppy where she was totally fine, and then Riot broke her, and then she was abused in LC$ and gutted into incompetence. After a while Riot tried to make her better, but she just became clunky and isn't the same champ.

Ornn is fine, I'd even call him broken. I have over 60 games on him, and I have a 5.5:1 KDA. My winrate is ~50%, and it'd be closer to 70% if my teams had brains.

Just pull your heads out of your asses and put in a bit of effort. >.>

13 Comments

Ok sure but whyOct 9, 20172 votes

champions that are designed to build full tank will never be bad

anything that can kill a tank will eventually get nerfed

NaalithOct 9, 20172 votes

I think the reason people think he is bad is because all of their favorite YouTubers think he is. Tanks are probably the class least represented by YouTube creators, and top and jungle which house tanks seem to prefer the fightery and assassin types as opposed to tanking but they do it because tanking is such a huge part of the meta right now.

This leads to people going online, seeing the first impressions of personalities be that he is trash because he's not like Kayn or Xayah/Rakan with a flashy and kill oriented kit, but are looking past the fact that his CC is OBSCENE. He has 2 aoe knockups that can hit multiple people, an aoe slow that sets up his team, a shield which makes him CC immune and can be followed with extreme damage (by a tank's standards), he's crazy. I have level 7 on Ornn and even though I haven't brought him out in ranked yet because I primarily play jungle, I think he is an absolutely insane champ that can set up some of the most one sided teamfights in the game, period.

NiyumiOct 9, 20171 votes

Sad part is you're probably right. : /

But, try him jungle. I ONLY jungle with him, and he does really well. Never have to back while clearing.

JackMcSnipeyzOct 9, 20172 votes

60 games with 50% winrate > blames team. No, he is bad, he needs QoL buffs to smooth his gameplay everything in his kit has a huge deley and not in the good way like sion

NiyumiOct 10, 20171 votes

Look at my performance and that of my teammates in those 60+ games. I do incredibly (why I have a 5.5:1 KDA over 60+ games), but my team is entirely incompetent and can't do anything. If I can get that far ahead while my team is handicapping me that much... he's not bad by any means.

And the only delays in his kit are his ult and Q. Your W starts doing damage the moment you cast it, and it's hard (if not impossible) to get out of it if you aim it well unless they use a mobility spell. Your E is very fast, and if you aim it well it's goinna land.

JackMcSnipeyzOct 10, 20171 votes

Your Q is deleyed, your R is deleyed, your W major part is deleyed, your E is situational and deleyed. Ofc when you go against an immobile brick like him you will have easier time following his W, too bad most champs have mobility and are smooth to play

LordGeovanniOct 11, 20171 votes

funny how you want to site kills as how good you didnt then say that Orrns power isnt in getting kills. kda is a very misleading stat that could mean that you played well and stomped your lane. It can also mean you couldnt even farm in your lane had to sit under tower until mid game and ksed every kill you got. You also dont list the A part of your KDA in other words how well you help your team

LordGeovanniOct 9, 20171 votes

Or you can stop pretending while the rest of us continue to point out that he is bad.

NiyumiOct 10, 20171 votes

Or you can just accept the fact that he's a higher skillcap champ, isn't kill-oriented, and does his job just fine if you put in the time to learn to play him and don't expect to one shot people.

UnboundHadesOct 10, 20171 votes

Ornn is gonna be like ivern if riot buffs him more since idiots don't understand that tanks aren't supposed to be the most fluent champs while doing damage

LordGeovanniOct 10, 20171 votes

except he isnt fluent or doing damage and that is still bullshit tanks trade off is not supposed to be cc for less damage its supposed to be they have a small effective range and for more damage and not building tanky when you want more damage so you build damage. Riot also said that being unable to kill people feels bad and nobody wants to feel like that (i guess tank players arent people) that is why adcs go so much buffs and tanks so much nerfs after every time adcs or mages get a buff.

UnboundHadesOct 10, 20171 votes

you sir just tried to explain a juggernaut not a tank so your comment is invalid and if you try to tell me ornn doesnt do damage due to his constant buffs then please leave and if your playing a tank you shouldnt be able to kill people while having the most cc and being the hardest to kill thats not how it works

LordGeovanniOct 11, 20171 votes

None of orrns buffs have given him more damage yet. the next one is supposed to give him more constant damage but considering orrn has a minimum constant health damage he can do that change is really irrelivant unless the enemy is stacking hp isntead of armor and magic resist which riots tank items rebalance made it stupid hard and stupid ineffective to do. its really only a buff a fed versus chogath