Graves with 20% pickrate to 52%winrate didn't get any nerf after all of this time, love balance team

ValiantKiller··2 votes·621 views

A champion like MonkeyKing who hardly was able to reach 5% pickrate with around 54% winrate was a big problem and got gutted to ground.

Yet a champion like Graves who is safer , much tanker and do alot of sustain damage using item 3812 abusing both item 3147 and item 3095 got both strong early and late game play style, didn't get affected by runes change since he mostly use fleet footwork(Precision + Sorcery ) got a pickrate of 20% to almost 52% winrate is complete fine by game.

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destroyer227191 votes

Graves is a champion good when skilled. And just like Irelia there are plenty of players invested in mastering her. Simple champions like Garen andMonkeyKing has an inflated win rate due to simplicity. But deflated pick rate due to them being brain dead. Graves is a champion with probably the shortest AA range of all marksman. Ashe Caitlyn has the longest range with 650 AA range. Draven Twitch Vayne and many others are 550 units. Heck, even Kaisa andTristana has a longer AA range with 525. To put that in perspective, other meta junglers including Taliyah has a range of 525. Kindred only 500 AA range. Yet, they still outrange Graves . Some champions like Karma have a strong early, mid, and late game. Yet, she's one of the wrost mid laners and even a wrose support in this current meta. She has access to her R lvl 1. And they're helpful. She spikes with item 3285 . And can deal high damage with her highly spammy Q in the later stages of the game. Numbers DO lie.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Graves is a champion good when skilled. And just like Irelia there are plenty of players invested in mastering her. Simple champions like Garen andMonkeyKing has an inflated win rate due to simplicity. But deflated pick rate due to them being brain dead. Graves is a champion with probably the shortest AA range of all marksman. Ashe Caitlyn has the longest range with 650 AA range. Draven Twitch Vayne and many others are 550 units. Heck, even Kaisa andTristana has a longer AA range with 525. To put that in perspective, other meta junglers including Taliyah has a range of 525. Kindred only 500 AA range. Yet, they still outrange Graves . Some champions like Karma have a strong early, mid, and late game. Yet, she's one of the wrost mid laners and even a wrose support in this current meta. She has access to her R lvl 1. And they're helpful. She spikes with item 3285 . And can deal high damage with her highly spammy Q in the later stages of the game. Numbers DO lie.

So in other words you saying he is fine champion that not busted special to his pickrate to winrate, okey

KlydeFrog1 votes

He isnt lol if he is sooo op and busted play him

destroyer227191 votes

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So in other words you saying he is fine champion that not busted special to his pickrate to winrate, okey

Basically, numbers can simply be misleading when on a smaller scale. Or simply unspecific.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Graves is weaker then wu

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