it doesn't even matter what control mage you ban

Eyesack·Oct 16, 2016·7 votes·795 views

another will take its place.

No matter what. You ban one champion because it has insane burst damage, cc and waveclear, all from range.

Well, theres 30 other to takes its place.

And the best part is that when this class of champions is not 100% necessary on each team, the entire forums is screaming because 'assassins can kill me waaaaaaaah'.

Next thing you know items are changed and every single mage is not only still doing great damage/providing utility, but is also basically unkillable just by building roa/rylais/hourglass. Yea, just delete this classes weaknesses, no big deal.

I swear you guys fuckin ruin this game.

21 Comments

WoonStruckOct 16, 20164 votes

Watch out.

The mage-circle jerk will get you.

Maximum MordeOct 16, 20161 votes

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Handy Sandy Oct 16, 20161 votes

But when I build those assassins still have the damage to oneshot me and bruisers can corner me? It happens a lot, I've still been able to onshot mages building tanky since they have like 0 defense also.

Pierce The VealOct 16, 20162 votes

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But when I build those assassins still have the damage to oneshot me and bruisers can corner me?

Yeah obviously by building a couple items you should be able to entirely negate two classes.

Handy Sandy Oct 16, 20161 votes

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Yeah obviously by building a couple items you should be able to entirely negate two classes.

I don't get how mages are all of a sudden too tanky, still going to get oneshotted by any Akali Evelynn Fizz . If you don't have your team or a tower to hug and you're in the jungle or something, you'll die.

Pierce The VealOct 16, 20162 votes

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I don't get how mages are all of a sudden too tanky, still going to get oneshotted by any . If you don't have your team or a tower to hug and you're in the jungle or something, you'll die.

Thing is (1) the three you stated are mage assassins. (2) The fact that mages can get damage and defenses without sacrificing much of either makes it so that they live longer while bursting as hard as assassins.

I Snipe IOct 16, 20161 votes

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I don't get how mages are all of a sudden too tanky, still going to get oneshotted by any . If you don't have your team or a tower to hug and you're in the jungle or something, you'll die.

"I got one shot by Evelynn"... said no one ever... she's weak. I mage support now and just kill her when she tries to gank me lol.

Handy Sandy Oct 16, 20161 votes

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"I got one shot by Evelynn"... said no one ever... she's weak. I mage support now and just kill her when she tries to gank me lol.

Never seen one build full AP and kill you before you know what's going on? If you're a mage support you do a bunch of damage, and she's after the ADC in the first place so yea she'll probably die since she's squishy and not going after the person with cc.

LordGeovanniOct 16, 20161 votes

1 how they ever gonna get to you and 2 you face feeding and the enemy several full items ahead of you if that is ever happening 3 dont mistake teams damage for 1 persons damage even low damage supports contribute 50 damage may be just 50 damage but its the difference between alive and dead

Handy Sandy Oct 16, 20161 votes

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1 how they ever gonna get to you and 2 you face feeding and the enemy several full items ahead of you if that is ever happening 3 dont mistake teams damage for 1 persons damage even low damage supports contribute 50 damage may be just 50 damage but its the difference between alive and dead

As you know mages have low MS even with item 3020 item 3285 , anyone with a gapcloser is going to catch you. Even if you're 12/2 a 5/3 Khazix will still kill you. In a 1v1, how do you mistake team damage?

LordGeovanniOct 18, 20161 votes

assumeing every melee champion has a long range or spamable dash and that mages dont have cc or mobility augements or even enough damage to make you think twice about just jumping on them.

Handy Sandy Oct 18, 20161 votes

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assumeing every melee champion has a long range or spamable dash and that mages dont have cc or mobility augements or even enough damage to make you think twice about just jumping on them.

Unless you're Ryze cc is predictable and can be dodged, you don't even need a spammable dash. Garen will hunt you down, Diana just has more MS, Olaf can't be kited, even Shyvana is gonna catch Anivia Lux

LordGeovanniOct 18, 20161 votes

olaf cant be kited for 5 seconds. during which you can run away just faster than he runs at you except in the first 1 second

WoodakoodashoodaOct 16, 20161 votes

Every season has its meta.

Season 3 was the season of ADC's, Season 4 was the season of assassins, Season 5 was the season of tanks, Season 6 is the season of damage. Season 7 is either going to be an assassin meta or a mage meta from the looks of things.

Pierce The VealOct 16, 20161 votes

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Every season has its meta.

Season 3 was the season of ADC's, Season 4 was the season of assassins, Season 5 was the season of tanks, Season 6 is the season of damage. Season 7 is either going to be an assassin meta or a mage meta from the looks of things.

You're off in your timing.

Season 2 was the season of adcs and bruisers. Season 3 was the season of assassins and adcs. Season 4 was the season of... Well I don't know sort of fucking everything I guess (trinkies were introduced, so damage supports and adcs tbh). Season 5 was tankland. Season 6 is indeed season of everyone gets some damages. Season 7 is 99% likely to not be an assassin meta.

Assassins were never in place for long. They became good for around half a season in season 3 after which the majority of the class got gutted anytime they showed their heads in the pro scene.

LordGeovanniOct 16, 20161 votes

season 5 had 1 month where tanks were on par with everyone else rather than the usual behind. the other and 2 months of juggarnaut dominace because no one knew how to play against them and riot didnt fine tune their numbers yet mages and adcs had more spotlight for longer in season 5

PermabannedGarenOct 16, 20161 votes

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season 5 had 1 month where tanks were on par with everyone else rather than the usual behind

Delusion.

LordGeovanniOct 16, 20161 votes

The sudden change where adcs lost 5 ad on their main items but tanks lost100 hp on most of their items and armor and mr at the same time adcs lost those 5 ad on 2 items and

LordGeovanniOct 16, 20161 votes

dont forget mobility item 3113