Nasus needs help

HateDaddy·Aug 4, 2016·6 votes·1,440 views

I'm not a fan of straight buffing him, his gameplay isn't exactly healthy and his ancient design makes him really frustrating to deal with. But his winrate continues to go down each patch while having a low playrate, which tells you even people who main him are having a hard time having success with him. I've played him since s2, well over a thousand games on him and I honestly don't think he's ever felt worse.

The game has probably just passed him by. Too much mobility, too easy to counter build, too immobile and too limited by his intentional weaknesses for his strengths to even shine.

But I know when he's not good and he's not good right now. I would honestly think some help to give him the ability to deal with all this mobility would be great...

53 Comments

Linna ExcelAug 5, 20163 votes

Nasus' biggest problem is his mains will never leave top lane to group with the team. That's not something riot can fix unless they want to cap the scaling on his Q.

CalabokAug 4, 20162 votes

Nasas Is top dog. He need none of your charities

HateDaddyAug 4, 20163 votes

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Nasas Is top dog. He need none of your charities

Nasus is not good right now.

IncognonymousAug 5, 20162 votes

Riot should embrace his juggernaut identity.
Make him into a dedicated jungler.
Maybe do something with his magic damage ratios and AD Scaling? Look at how much stuff is packed on his E-- the weird armor reduction + AP scaling upfront damage + AP scaling DPS.
The ult is a nice steroid and fits in with 1., but again, magic damage AoE.
Update mana pool + ability costs. Mana gates are archaic.

Swiftstrike4Aug 7, 20162 votes

I am also a Gold Nasus main.

He received a soft-nerf with the mastery changes and has been relatively "average" or "below average" since.

The dip in his win rate may reflect the damage in the game, the prevalence of rylais on CC mages, the nerfing of teleport, and the rise or carry picks in the top lane?

I actually don't know, but I have noticed the dip in win rate recently. Maybe modest nerfs to items he frequently build have begun to make him slightly less effective.

We also see more mages being played since the mage update, and mages have forms of crowd control. Movement speed nerfs have probably indirectly hurt him.

Nasus needs two adjustments (and he has needed them since mastery system changed):

He needs better base and/or scaling health. He doesn't build many health items early and of the juggernauts ( and ) his health scales the worst.
He needs something that grants him tenacity. The buff to ghost has helped him, but there is so much CC in the game that with all the movement speed nerfs he is more liable to get hit than in the past. I think he should get marginal increasing tenacity based on Q stacks. Either that or increase his base movement speed. He needs something that ALLOWS him to gap close or do something against high CC comps. Even with , points in the resolve tree for tenacity, and he still is EASILY kited.

I feel like with Nasus I really have to outplay my opponents more often to cover up his weaknesses. And tenacity is a big problem for him.

I think all the Keystones don't really help Nasus either. SotA is probably the best one for him, but it takes too long to stack it for it to have game impact and Grasp is so much more effective with his early game. Too bad this talent has been nerfed and it doesn't scale very well.

GetcuxcdAug 7, 20161 votes

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I am also a Gold Nasus main.

He received a soft-nerf with the mastery changes and has been relatively "average" or "below average" since.

The dip in his win rate may reflect the damage in the game, the prevalence of rylais on CC mages, the nerfing of teleport, and the rise or carry picks in the top lane?

I actually don't know, but I have noticed the dip in win rate recently. Maybe modest nerfs to items he frequently build have begun to make him slightly less effective.

We also see more mages being played since the mage update, and mages have forms of crowd control. Movement speed nerfs have probably indirectly hurt him.

Nasus needs two adjustments (and he has needed them since mastery system changed):

He needs better base and/or scaling health. He doesn't build many health items early and of the juggernauts ( and ) his health scales the worst.

He needs something that grants him tenacity. The buff to ghost has helped him, but there is so much CC in the game that with all the movement speed nerfs he is more liable to get hit than in the past. I think he should get marginal increasing tenacity based on Q stacks. Either that or increase his base movement speed. He needs something that ALLOWS him to gap close or do something against high CC comps. Even with , points in the resolve tree for tenacity, and he still is EASILY kited.

I feel like with Nasus I really have to outplay my opponents more often to cover up his weaknesses. And tenacity is a big problem for him.

I think all the Keystones don't really help Nasus either. SotA is probably the best one for him, but it takes too long to stack it for it to have game impact and Grasp is so much more effective with his early game. Too bad this talent has been nerfed and it doesn't scale very well.

these "soft nerfs" were very well deserved and even more are welcomed... anways ur 1st suggestion is OUT of the question he already has stupid sustain to survive his laning phase to the hardest of his counters under his turret waiting for his jungler to gank this easily gankable position the enemy that tries to counter nasus puts himself in

for the 2nd one it maybe fine as long as he gets a compensation nerf to balance things out .. as long as its not more dmg or stupid durability in his early game WHICH IS supposed to be weak but it isnt "that weak" anymore since like 2 - 3 years after the unnecesary buffs hes got in the past

**BTW heres a tip to you "pro" nasus players to see why i dont think hes weak make a couple rune pages one full with ARMOR if ur facing someone like riven that doesnt have any ability with base magic dmg another full with mr just in case ur facing a ryze swain etc another half armor half mr if ur facing some1 like YASUO MR because his E is so overloaded they gona max it and ur gona take alot of MAGIc dmg get bond of stone ... srsly just get it every piece of defence early on it rly makes a HUGE difference even early on if u dont take it ull have problems .. also dont choose the summoner cd reduce one but the hp regen .. as i said any defence early makes difference and before you say that bond of stone is rly bad bad bronze sht .. first try it out its rly better than undying grasp because u DONT want to be trading with nasus much early on before u get the sheen just focus on getting the early gold and bond of stone will help u to negate some more dmg while undying grasp most of the times will be unreliable since u have to attack the opponent u wont have much hp early to scale with it and it wont be charged when u need it and u shouldnt stay in long fight so it can be charged early before u have got the SHEEN

go to lane play SMART use ur minion wave as a shield when they harass you and enjoy the free farm(go in take cs back out so they get aggroed by ur minions and try to retaliate alittle bit while retrating without slowing urself down) enemy pretty much cant do shit to you unless u play bad or a gank comes which is normal also if u have 1050 gold always get the sheen and GG u win the lane since u outclass any of their poke if u have been smartly taking farm .. heck u can even miss 2 3 minions each wave and still be super ridiculous(for the bad nasuses that get denied)

unless you go in like an idiot all in at them without having sheen ur probably going to get rekt but that is going to be ur fault

GET first item depending on who are you facing .. some1 with alot of scary skillshots that are going to set up easy ganks get boots and dont get hit some1 with magic dmg u get the MR item some1 with ad cloth armor and GOD dont ask me why if i think nasus is so easy to get elo with im not challengeour bla bla .. the thing is he is RLY BORING and it does take alot of effort its draining (which by all means doesnt mean that he should be rewarded for that with a buff! only solution is a complete rework).. sometimes your teammates flat out suck no matter how good you do but that is a normal thing it happens and u cant prevent it with any champ when ur ashe is 0/9 at abt 14 mins **

Ravenous HowlsAug 8, 20162 votes

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these "soft nerfs" were very well deserved and even more are welcomed... anways ur 1st suggestion is OUT of the question he already has stupid sustain to survive his laning phase to the hardest of his counters under his turret waiting for his jungler to gank this easily gankable position the enemy that tries to counter nasus puts himself in

for the 2nd one it maybe fine as long as he gets a compensation nerf to balance things out .. as long as its not more dmg or stupid durability in his early game WHICH IS supposed to be weak but it isnt "that weak" anymore since like 2 - 3 years after the unnecesary buffs hes got in the past

**BTW heres a tip to you "pro" nasus players to see why i dont think hes weak make a couple rune pages one full with ARMOR if ur facing someone like riven that doesnt have any ability with base magic dmg another full with mr just in case ur facing a ryze swain etc another half armor half mr if ur facing some1 like YASUO MR because his E is so overloaded they gona max it and ur gona take alot of MAGIc dmg get bond of stone ... srsly just get it every piece of defence early on it rly makes a HUGE difference even early on if u dont take it ull have problems .. also dont choose the summoner cd reduce one but the hp regen .. as i said any defence early makes difference and before you say that bond of stone is rly bad bad bronze sht .. first try it out its rly better than undying grasp because u DONT want to be trading with nasus much early on before u get the sheen just focus on getting the early gold and bond of stone will help u to negate some more dmg while undying grasp most of the times will be unreliable since u have to attack the opponent u wont have much hp early to scale with it and it wont be charged when u need it and u shouldnt stay in long fight so it can be charged early before u have got the SHEEN

go to lane play SMART use ur minion wave as a shield when they harass you and enjoy the free farm(go in take cs back out so they get aggroed by ur minions and try to retaliate alittle bit while retrating without slowing urself down) enemy pretty much cant do shit to you unless u play bad or a gank comes which is normal also if u have 1050 gold always get the sheen and GG u win the lane since u outclass any of their poke if u have been smartly taking farm .. heck u can even miss 2 3 minions each wave and still be super ridiculous(for the bad nasuses that get denied)

unless you go in like an idiot all in at them without having sheen ur probably going to get rekt but that is going to be ur fault

GET first item depending on who are you facing .. some1 with alot of scary skillshots that are going to set up easy ganks get boots and dont get hit some1 with magic dmg u get the MR item some1 with ad cloth armor and GOD dont ask me why if i think nasus is so easy to get elo with im not challengeour bla bla .. the thing is he is RLY BORING and it does take alot of effort its draining (which by all means doesnt mean that he should be rewarded for that with a buff! only solution is a complete rework).. sometimes your teammates flat out suck no matter how good you do but that is a normal thing it happens and u cant prevent it with any champ when ur ashe is 0/9 at abt 14 mins **

Nasus would never survive any point of the game, let alone his early game without his sustain. He has one (You can count right? I am not really sure as your intelligence and ability to cognitively reason is heavily in question) count one damaging ability his Q. The rest of his kit is balances around it. If you are arguing E is a damage ability you are a troll or the Nasus is building AP and he's a troll. Either way only Q has any significant damage to be considered.

Every other champion you mentioned has insane early game damage and trading potential early and can do half to 2/3 of his health with a successful combo. Riven, Ryze, Swain, Pantheon and many others have 2- 4 damaging abilities some form of harder CC and in some cases greater sustain.

Your point about lane positioning and management is what EVERY OTHER champion does. So that is a completely useless argument to make your point. You are also complaining about him scaling and sustaining off farm. Almost all the other champions you mentioned have extreme early game pressure and snowball potential off one kill. Not only that they have much better chance to roam and pick up kills where Nasus needs to farm till he has some items to survive and stacks to deal significant damage and in a hard lane this will be 15 or 20 minutes and the game may be decided by then. So right there he has to work probably 10 times harder than every other champion to become relevant.

I can only conclude you are a raging troll who likes to pick what everyone else calls OP, yes I checked your match history and you are clearly a flavor of the month player. Your KDA is atrocious in most of your games and you tend to die far more than you contribute. Your Nasus games are even more pathetic. You clearly have no concept on how to play the champion and thus have no right to offer objective criticism or ask for any changes.

GetcuxcdAug 8, 20161 votes

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Nasus would never survive any point of the game, let alone his early game without his sustain. He has one (You can count right? I am not really sure as your intelligence and ability to cognitively reason is heavily in question) count one damaging ability his Q. The rest of his kit is balances around it. If you are arguing E is a damage ability you are a troll or the Nasus is building AP and he's a troll. Either way only Q has any significant damage to be considered.

Every other champion you mentioned has insane early game damage and trading potential early and can do half to 2/3 of his health with a successful combo. Riven, Ryze, Swain, Pantheon and many others have 2- 4 damaging abilities some form of harder CC and in some cases greater sustain.

Your point about lane positioning and management is what EVERY OTHER champion does. So that is a completely useless argument to make your point. You are also complaining about him scaling and sustaining off farm. Almost all the other champions you mentioned have extreme early game pressure and snowball potential off one kill. Not only that they have much better chance to roam and pick up kills where Nasus needs to farm till he has some items to survive and stacks to deal significant damage and in a hard lane this will be 15 or 20 minutes and the game may be decided by then. So right there he has to work probably 10 times harder than every other champion to become relevant.

I can only conclude you are a raging troll who likes to pick what everyone else calls OP, yes I checked your match history and you are clearly a flavor of the month player. Your KDA is atrocious in most of your games and you tend to die far more than you contribute. Your Nasus games are even more pathetic. You clearly have no concept on how to play the champion and thus have no right to offer objective criticism or ask for any changes.

"your nasus games are even more pathethic" did you figure that out of your ass? based on 8 ranked games in which 3 of them that were lost were with trolls that fed the game and at that point i died alot in result of that and i didnt give a sht about KDA only option wouldve been to afk at the fountain LMAO in the other games that u checked they are normal games and im playing for fun sometimes and sometimes i test some ridiculous fun stuff.. ur a moron to base me on that

and LOL u havent even tried my build yet which deals with every problem and you keep bulshitting on lmao u are ridiculous its about dealing with THOSE who counter you .. something that your boosted-to-gold-v-and-never-play-more-ranked-again-out-of-fear-to-lose-my-boosted-ranking-position-which-isnt-even-any-better-than-bronze-to-brag-about-it-anyways ass cant handle ** if are yall such "good pro players" ur gonna stop whining about unnecesary nasus buffs unless you want riot to realize that hes got from op to SUPER op after the unnecesary buffs and nerf him 30 times to death instead**

LuggAug 8, 20162 votes

Nasus doesn't need any help at all. It's just that the OP champs top lane just need nerfs.

GetcuxcdAug 5, 20161 votes

are u serious maybe YOU are not good? keep trying get better ull realize he needs nerfs instead of buffs please dont ever mention this thing again nasus makes me sick his early game is no longer an excuse for his late since neither mana is an issue his Q has increased range if he gets countered hes has super high sustain and if he is super countered he can always hug turret and sustain and when he gets sheen no matter how hard you counter him he wrecks everyone and it can start from his early game just because of the sheen and his bullshit asss Q

Ravenous HowlsAug 5, 20162 votes

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are u serious maybe YOU are not good? keep trying get better ull realize he needs nerfs instead of buffs please dont ever mention this thing again nasus makes me sick his early game is no longer an excuse for his late since neither mana is an issue his Q has increased range if he gets countered hes has super high sustain and if he is super countered he can always hug turret and sustain and when he gets sheen no matter how hard you counter him he wrecks everyone and it can start from his early game just because of the sheen and his bullshit asss Q

LOL! WUT?! Nasus is easily denied and out scaled by many now b/c of the insane damage creep in the game now. Not only this but many of his main items have been nerfed recently putting him further behind. His win rate is hovering around 48% and dropping each patch. Not sure what elo you are in but only Nasus Mains do well with him regardless of match up usually.

GetcuxcdAug 5, 20161 votes

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LOL! WUT?! Nasus is easily denied and out scaled by many now b/c of the insane damage creep in the game now. Not only this but many of his main items have been nerfed recently putting him further behind. His win rate is hovering around 48% and dropping each patch. Not sure what elo you are in but only Nasus Mains do well with him regardless of match up usually.

lmao saying lol wut like what gives you the right to think that ure right easily denied outscaled .. dont make me laugh you just suck at him if i can find a way to win my lane against my counters SO CAN YOU.. so get better gosh when u say his main items have been nerfed he has like 0 mana issues his Q cost is so damn LOW and so freaking effective and his sustain why bother hard countering him when he can hug turret and farm under it with his crazy asss sustain which makes his early game as good as his late and wait for his jungler to come for help and when he gets sheen he out trades even his hardest counters all he has to do is get 1050 gold and turn the lane to his favor

if i can play good with him and you cant and i dont have any complaints about him other than saying that he needs nerfs theres clearly something wrong with you not the champ

Critmaster GarenAug 5, 20163 votes

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lmao saying lol wut like what gives you the right to think that ure right easily denied outscaled .. dont make me laugh you just suck at him if i can find a way to win my lane against my counters SO CAN YOU.. so get better gosh when u say his main items have been nerfed he has like 0 mana issues his Q cost is so damn LOW and so freaking effective and his sustain why bother hard countering him when he can hug turret and farm under it with his crazy asss sustain which makes his early game as good as his late and wait for his jungler to come for help and when he gets sheen he out trades even his hardest counters all he has to do is get 1050 gold and turn the lane to his favor

if i can play good with him and you cant and i dont have any complaints about him other than saying that he needs nerfs theres clearly something wrong with you not the champ

http://champion.gg/champion/Nasus

he needs buffs. how youre doing with him in silver doesnt matter. champion balance doesnt exist in the lower divisions. the constant mistakes players make down there outweight the difference in strength of individual champions.

GetcuxcdAug 5, 20161 votes

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http://champion.gg/champion/Nasus

he needs buffs. how youre doing with him in silver doesnt matter. champion balance doesnt exist in the lower divisions. the constant mistakes players make down there outweight the difference in strength of individual champions.

BUT LMAO PLAT NASUS PLAYERS DO EVEN BETTER in gold+ and none of them complain because they arent idiots and they know nasus is kind of sleeper op atm

usually the people who say HE NEEDS BUFFS are below plat some low scrubs that dont play the champ right OR if they happen to be pros which is rare they are just one of these obnoxious mains that dont care about balance all they care is to pull of some buffs to their already op favorite champ to make it easier to climb

Critmaster GarenAug 5, 20162 votes

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BUT LMAO PLAT NASUS PLAYERS DO EVEN BETTER in gold+ and none of them complain because they arent idiots and they know nasus is kind of sleeper op atm

usually the people who say HE NEEDS BUFFS are below plat some low scrubs that dont play the champ right OR if they happen to be pros which is rare they are just one of these obnoxious mains that dont care about balance all they care is to pull of some buffs to their already op favorite champ to make it easier to climb

look at the statistics. theyre only taken from plat+ games. nasus needs buffs. its a fact.

GetcuxcdAug 5, 20161 votes

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look at the statistics. theyre only taken from plat+ games. nasus needs buffs. its a fact.

no these statisticks at ch gg are from ALL ranked games including bronze at master+ his win rate varies from 50% to 100% stop trying to get nasus buffed out of your asss jsut because you suck i dont wanna suffer it again even tho hes still op but less seen

Critmaster GarenAug 5, 20162 votes

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no these statisticks at ch gg are from ALL ranked games including bronze at master+ his win rate varies from 50% to 100% stop trying to get nasus buffed out of your asss jsut because you suck i dont wanna suffer it again even tho hes still op but less seen

champion gg only takes from plat +

it even says so in the top right corner. just accept it dude. the stats are right there. hes pretty weak right now.

Ravenous HowlsAug 7, 20162 votes

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lmao saying lol wut like what gives you the right to think that ure right easily denied outscaled .. dont make me laugh you just suck at him if i can find a way to win my lane against my counters SO CAN YOU.. so get better gosh when u say his main items have been nerfed he has like 0 mana issues his Q cost is so damn LOW and so freaking effective and his sustain why bother hard countering him when he can hug turret and farm under it with his crazy asss sustain which makes his early game as good as his late and wait for his jungler to come for help and when he gets sheen he out trades even his hardest counters all he has to do is get 1050 gold and turn the lane to his favor

if i can play good with him and you cant and i dont have any complaints about him other than saying that he needs nerfs theres clearly something wrong with you not the champ

I am gold level Nasus Main. I have extensive experience with him and know his strengths and weakness's. You are just a raging fool who thinks if he screams really loud he can drown out the truth. Either that or you are a flavor of the month player and thinks because he saw an LCS player do awesome that he can do awesome too... The dream...

The truth is Nasus is OP to new/bad players because they don't feel like learning how to coordinate their play or tactics to win. In Gold and higher he takes an extreme amount of extra patience to do well with against most competent players. There are far more oppressive champs in the game than Nasus, who have insane amounts of mobility, range and kiting with overpowered items.

Further more none of your points are indicative of a Nasus play style only. Lot's of bad early game champs will "hug" turret and wait till they scale to kill their opponent. It is a tactic but I am sure different play styles outside of trading in creep waves is too much for you to comprehend and thus it is OP.

GG! Go play a game where you can always win and never have to adapt or play differently. Mario comes to mind! HF!

CarnariusAug 5, 20165 votes

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are u serious maybe YOU are not good?

i'm pretty sure it's the opposite, you are just not doing well at all against nasus

against good opponents it's insanely hard to play him and you have to put a ridiculous amount of effort and focus to do your job well as nasus

besides, statistics don't lie. very low win rate with low pick rate? he is in horrible state right now

GetcuxcdAug 5, 20161 votes

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i'm pretty sure it's the opposite, you are just not doing well at all against nasus

against good opponents it's insanely hard to play him and you have to put a ridiculous amount of effort and focus to do your job well as nasus

besides, statistics don't lie. very low win rate with low pick rate? he is in horrible state right now

sounds like ur just a nasus main that wants easier elo like seriously WHAT MORE HE NEEDS super high early sustain to survive the hardest counters super high damage even early game once he gets sheen mana isnt a restriction to him since like 2 3 years since the unnecesary buffs he got gosh his Q mana cost is 20! please stop with the bull sht crap he is not fair he needs nerfs

CarnariusAug 5, 20162 votes

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sounds like ur just a nasus main that wants easier elo like seriously WHAT MORE HE NEEDS super high early sustain to survive the hardest counters super high damage even early game once he gets sheen mana isnt a restriction to him since like 2 3 years since the unnecesary buffs he got gosh his Q mana cost is 20! please stop with the bull sht crap he is not fair he needs nerfs

unfortunately for you i'm challenger and you just sounds to me like a frustrated kid that can't do anything against nasus and refuse to learn. perhaps i would believe you if 60% of people i play with in high elo cries about how bad and unplayable this champion is. so maybe climb with nasus to AT LEAST plat so we can talk again after

GetcuxcdAug 5, 20161 votes

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unfortunately for you i'm challenger and you just sounds to me like a frustrated kid that can't do anything against nasus and refuse to learn. perhaps i would believe you if 60% of people i play with in high elo cries about how bad and unplayable this champion is. so maybe climb with nasus to AT LEAST plat so we can talk again after

OK SO YOU HAVE 60 % WIN RATE WITH NASUS AT S6 WHAT MORE YOU WANT do you even CARE about balance AT ALL ? what are you aiming for ? easy 100% winrate or what? you got your free elo till challenger with nasus so what is your problem i dont understand WHAT DOES NASUS NEED convince me without sounding like an idiot that just wants to abuse more OP stuff because he needs nerfs atm and ive explained u so many times u cant deny what i said to you i do very good when i play nasus and when i play against him and i try to counter him he just hugs turret and then comes back with sheen and starts doing stupid ammounts of dmg out of nowhere while being a tank without being fed just having his core armor sheen AT early game

i can play nasus like a nasus main and i think he needs nerfs because i understand his ridiculous power and i dont deny it like u even if ur challenger u could just be lying u know 90% of champ mains are scumbags that care only about their champ being at the top regardless if its unhealthy for the game or not.

His early game is no longer an excuse for his late no not with that stupid sustain and low mana cost and powerspike with sheen and ult base dmg NOPE

CarnariusAug 5, 20162 votes

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OK SO YOU HAVE 60 % WIN RATE WITH NASUS AT S6 WHAT MORE YOU WANT do you even CARE about balance AT ALL ? what are you aiming for ? easy 100% winrate or what? you got your free elo till challenger with nasus so what is your problem i dont understand WHAT DOES NASUS NEED convince me without sounding like an idiot that just wants to abuse more OP stuff because he needs nerfs atm and ive explained u so many times u cant deny what i said to you i do very good when i play nasus and when i play against him and i try to counter him he just hugs turret and then comes back with sheen and starts doing stupid ammounts of dmg out of nowhere while being a tank without being fed just having his core armor sheen AT early game

i can play nasus like a nasus main and i think he needs nerfs because i understand his ridiculous power and i dont deny it like u even if ur challenger u could just be lying u know 90% of champ mains are scumbags that care only about their champ being at the top regardless if its unhealthy for the game or not.

His early game is no longer an excuse for his late no not with that stupid sustain and low mana cost and powerspike with sheen and ult base dmg NOPE

i have 60% win rate cause im the best nasus world right now, do you expect faker to have 50% win rate on leblanc? i guess not even in challenger there are many people that dont know how to play against him, simply because people see him in 1/1000 games in there. that's pretty much the only hope for a nasus player, because if enemy knows what they are doing (hint : coordinated jungler ganks) he becomes utterly useless for the rest of the game. his only strong moment in the game is mid game and only if he is well farmed, but they almost took that away with broken rylais being built on every mage. perhaps this is why his win rate is trash atm so keep dreaming if you want, i'd bet you would argue with lcs players as well. i don't understand 1 thing tho, if nasus is a freelo champion why are you still sitting in low elo, can't climb with him?

ParoeAug 5, 20161 votes

Nasus is fine. Hes a counter pick, not someone you pick 90% of the time.

You pick nasus into AD top laners and low damage tanks. You dont pick him into shyvana or trundle.

Ozag the MightyAug 6, 20161 votes

Or garen or darius

Critmaster GarenAug 6, 20162 votes

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Or garen or darius

garen isnt doing too hot anymore either. it went downhill since the mage update. both, nasus and garen could use some buffs. illaoi needs changes to her power curve since shes all early game and 0 mid/lategame right now, and mundo could use a buff aswell.

Ozag the MightyAug 7, 20161 votes

I dunno I recently...well roughly a week ago had a phenomenal garen game went something like 19/1/5 or close to that and that 1 death was cause I thought I could get the last hit on a tower, it was an execute. I personally think garen is healthy. His kit keeps him strong and it's one of the better juggernaut kits, silence, huge armor mr resist and consecutive damage on his E and his ult is just wonderful. I hope they don't change garen at all. and when I'm matched against nasus it's practically a free win in lane cause garen can deny nasus all day.

Ravenous HowlsAug 8, 20161 votes

You are truly an class A, tier 1 idiot. And I mean that with all sincerity. I am not boosted in the slightest. I don't have time to play 10 hours a day like you probably do in your mother's basement. I only play ranked on the weekends so you can clearly see I am not afraid to lose anything. My KDA is excellent on Nasus and as my most played champion it would stand to reason my individual win rate hovers above 50%. I earned my ranking through SoloQ or by playing with a duo friend whom leveled to Gold with me at the same time. He's not a smurf either but I am sure you will cry and rage to make yourself feel like he was.

"Your build" Is no different or better than anyone else's however your performance does not denote that you have the skill or knowledge to play Nasus well and your argument that you play as well as a main is merely a false pretense on your part to try and sway opinion in your favor. It's not just your Nasus KDA that sucks it's many of the champions you just pick up b/c they are preferred picks. Vlad, Twisted Fate, Yasuo, Zed... Should I go on? You pick some of the most over abused and oppressive champs in the game with far more game impact and damage than Nasus gets even when farmed.

No one is whining for hard tier buffs. Nasus mains just want to bring Nasus a bit back to his balanced state. Asking for some better base health, defense stats is hardly asking for abusive buffs. Or asking for a mastery tree that actually provides defenses like last season. Also it is not just Nasus. Many durable tanks and fighters are suffering b/c of the damage creep and lack of good defensive early items or masteries.

You are truly an ignorant, biased bigot who can not accept anything outside of his own thought process. So do everyone a favor and just bugger off b/c you clearly have nothing to merit your argument or defend your points except that you are low silver and can't be bothered to learn how to counter or play around certain champs.

GetcuxcdAug 8, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lazarus Blade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x1b4P2EV,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-08-08T13:05:34.109+0000)

You are truly an class A, tier 1 idiot. And I mean that with all sincerity. I am not boosted in the slightest. I don't have time to play 10 hours a day like you probably do in your mother's basement. I only play ranked on the weekends so you can clearly see I am not afraid to lose anything. My KDA is excellent on Nasus and as my most played champion it would stand to reason my individual win rate hovers above 50%. I earned my ranking through SoloQ or by playing with a duo friend whom leveled to Gold with me at the same time. He's not a smurf either but I am sure you will cry and rage to make yourself feel like he was.

"Your build" Is no different or better than anyone else's however your performance does not denote that you have the skill or knowledge to play Nasus well and your argument that you play as well as a main is merely a false pretense on your part to try and sway opinion in your favor. It's not just your Nasus KDA that sucks it's many of the champions you just pick up b/c they are preferred picks. Vlad, Twisted Fate, Yasuo, Zed... Should I go on? You pick some of the most over abused and oppressive champs in the game with far more game impact and damage than Nasus gets even when farmed.

No one is whining for hard tier buffs. Nasus mains just want to bring Nasus a bit back to his balanced state. Asking for some better base health, defense stats is hardly asking for abusive buffs. Or asking for a mastery tree that actually provides defenses like last season. Also it is not just Nasus. Many durable tanks and fighters are suffering b/c of the damage creep and lack of good defensive early items or masteries.

You are truly an ignorant, biased bigot who can not accept anything outside of his own thought process. So do everyone a favor and just bugger off b/c you clearly have nothing to merit your argument or defend your points except that you are low silver and can't be bothered to learn how to counter or play around certain champs.

u already have a good defensive mastery tree - pick bond of stone and good runes im silver 2 and ur gold V honestly ur an idiot LOL im not even gona read ur poo

Ravenous HowlsAug 8, 20161 votes

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u already have a good defensive mastery tree - pick bond of stone and good runes im silver 2 and ur gold V honestly ur an idiot LOL im not even gona read ur poo

Awwww... Someone's tired and out of put downs? It's ok I am sure you will get a snack pack and juice box soon. Deflection is the oldest tactic of those who can not admit they were/are wrong. Good Luck in life and in League by God you'll need it.

GetcuxcdAug 8, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lazarus Blade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x1b4P2EV,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2016-08-08T14:13:19.942+0000)

Awwww... Someone's tired and out of put downs? It's ok I am sure you will get a snack pack and juice box soon. Deflection is the oldest tactic of those who can not admit they were/are wrong. Good Luck in life and in League by God you'll need it.

lol just because 10 biased nasus mains are bashing me doesnt mean that im wrong ill keep doing my thing .. and if this thread was popular(not consisting of 99% nasus scumbags) it wouldve been downvoted to hell