Give Katarina a lower MS already, for a lower early game shunpo cd I'll take it

CatSith··12 votes·522 views

for some one who has no resource, high mobility and cd resets, she shouldn't have a 340 movement speed.

Even nautilus has 325, while Maokai has 335 (as an example because they have similar kits.)

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Infinite Saught3 votes

Yeah but she has many trade offs for having mobility and cd resets.

ƒrostγ3 votes

She's a squishy melee champ with no cc who happens to be an assassin, so giving her low base movement speed makes no sense to be honest.

Nautilus is tanky with tons of hard CC and a gapcloser so as a trade off his base MS is lower. That's totally understandable.

CatSith1 votes

And which is similar to Maokai, whom has 10 more ms than he does.

Katarina is a resourceless assassin that has a ms boost and a blink that has cd resets. She can get around just fine without the 340 ms, it makes no sense for someone with that much mobility to have a high base ms speed

Vekkna3 votes

I mean, you're right that there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to champs' base MS. Lissandra is 325, Lux is 330, and Xerath is 340. Kassadin is 330 and Akali is 350. Evelynn is 335 and Shaco is 350. And for no reason whatsoever, Pantheon and Yi start at 355.

It feels very dartboard balanced.

ƒrostγ1 votes

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I mean, you're right that there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to champs' base MS. Lissandra is 325, Lux is 330, and Xerath is 340. Kassadin is 330 and Akali is 350. Evelynn is 335 and Shaco is 350. And for no reason whatsoever, Pantheon and Yi start at 355.

It feels very dartboard balanced.

Lissandra - due to the nature of her kit she can get away relatively easily from melee champions ( W root, Q slow, E blink ) so as a tradeoff she has lower base MS Lux : ranged squishy champ with no escape but she has a shield so her base MS is mediocre Xerath: ranged squishy with no escape or shield and his Q slows him, so 340 makes perfect sense Akali: melee assassin with really weak laning phase until lvl 6. She needs higher MS to survive until she gets her R. Pantheon: early game champion with no escape who has to poke before all-in Yi: his whole kit screams mobility so I'm not sure what is your problem with this Shaco: he has to stick to his target in order to deal any meaningful damage while not having a reliable dash/blink like other assassins

Vekkna2 votes

Lissandra - So you'd think Ekko or Ahri would be 325 as well, but they aren't. Lux - Orianna is slower and shorter range. Xerath - The best direct comparison is Ziggs, who is at 325 Akali - Weak laning is not the same as unsafe laning Pantheon - Not sure what that has to do with crazy high base MS Yi - Ditto Katarina, and OP has a problem with that Shaco: How's that different from Evelynn?

ƒrostγ1 votes

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Lissandra - So you'd think Ekko or Ahri would be 325 as well, but they aren't. Lux - Orianna is slower and shorter range. Xerath - The best direct comparison is Ziggs, who is at 325 Akali - Weak laning is not the same as unsafe laning Pantheon - Not sure what that has to do with crazy high base MS Yi - Ditto Katarina, and OP has a problem with that Shaco: How's that different from Evelynn?

  1. Ahri and Ekko are not even remotely similar to her, though I'm not saying she shouldn't have higher base MS.
  2. Orianna can increase her speed with W and she also has a shield that gives her MR and Armor.
  3. Not really because Ziggs has an escape and his abilities aren't slowing him when he's using them.
  4. Um, how is her laning safe? All she has is her W and flash.
  5. He has no escape and the point of the champ is to dominate early game, so obviously his base stats and base damage has to be high.

Already explained Katarina and YI. Eve has permanent invisibility after 6, unlike Shaco.

YuGiHo1 votes

she is fast so she can roam and manually pick up daggers in fights. being a squishy melee burst champ she honestly needs the mobility since her only defensive option is item 3157 and kat cant really poke she goes all in so the mobility is warranted.

Śhunpo1 votes

You do know they nerfed her movespeed upon reworking her, right?

Also, you do know that with Sorc. boots she only has 385 movespeed.....like really, she's not that fast.

CatSith1 votes

Faster than most champions, who don't have the amount of mobility in her kit.

Śhunpo1 votes

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Faster than most champions, who don't have the amount of mobility in her kit.

Maybe cause they actually have CC or utility?

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