Revert LeBlanc rework plz

datfatguy·Jan 24, 2018·22 votes·2,903 views

She is actually terrible now. I haven't seen a LeBlanc at all recently, let alone one doing well as her. Her new kit gives the enemies way too much time to figure out how to escape her, which really ruins that assassin feel she used to have. I really saw nothing wrong with her old kit, so can we please have it back? If you don't want to undo her rework, at least make it so her passive is ready almost instantly, so she can go back to being an assassin. But I would prefer to have old LB back.

33 Comments

strutJan 25, 20186 votes

Reverting wouldn't solve anything. She needs an actual seriously done quality rework. She had very little window of interaction / ccounterplay for the enemy laner before MYMU now she has way too much

Void Baboon RFJan 25, 20183 votes

God shut up about leblanc already she was perfectly viable in high elo last season and she's perfectly viable now.

datfatguyJan 25, 20182 votes

In high elo. Do I look like a high elo player to you? No. I'm in silver. And just because I'm in silver it does not mean that I shouldn't be able to play a certain bunch of champions.

Batpool UchihaMar 7, 20181 votes

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In high elo. Do I look like a high elo player to you? No. I'm in silver. And just because I'm in silver it does not mean that I shouldn't be able to play a certain bunch of champions.

i honestly feel the new leblanc is better and they should only reduce the proc time to like .50 seconds and shes fine

datfatguyMar 8, 20181 votes

Nah. I feel like Riot made the same mistake that they made with Rengar. They just made her feel... clunky. She just feels stupid to play with her new kit. Too late now anyway, a revert is on the PBE.

Batpool UchihaMar 8, 20181 votes

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Nah. I feel like Riot made the same mistake that they made with Rengar. They just made her feel... clunky. She just feels stupid to play with her new kit. Too late now anyway, a revert is on the PBE.

rengars post rework q was dumb like the whole slash forward thing but leblanc is actually good and she takes skill. hses really fun and you dont have to rely on just your q for sigil proc thats why i love her cause i walk up to then e and boom they are half health, i also dont want any one else to pick her up because the same thing happened with yorick. i started playing yorick and 4 months later hes meta and everyone plays him and now knows how to counter him

KlydeFrogJan 25, 20183 votes

Umm yah but instant killing people in less then a sec with 0 counter play is healthy how?

datfatguyJan 25, 20183 votes

She was only able to do this if she was pretty damn fed, and also, dafuq do you mean by 0 counterplay? It was and still is very easy to mess up with LeBlanc, as she is a hard champion to play and master. I have no idea what you're talking about.

KlydeFrogJan 25, 20181 votes

Umm no one else in the game could do what she did just saying

datfatguyJan 25, 20181 votes

What about a fed Rengar pre-rework?

KlydeFrogJan 25, 20181 votes

Guess what all he could do was maybe kill 1 player and that's a maybe but he has no escape like lb . Go in kill go out in less then a sec and guess what she still lives and rengar will be dead and that's if he is lucky he even gets a kill

datfatguyJan 25, 20181 votes

I have no idea what you just said

Devil ZacJan 25, 20184 votes

I hope she gets reverted. Her new kit made leblanc fell like a mage and not an assasin. And the new combo sucks ass, its to slow. And im with you (1 stun = leblanc dead) so its easy to counter play, but to many dumb players out there saying she is OP... she was an assasin like rengar and now they reverted Rengars Q.

OleandervineJan 24, 20182 votes

Don't revert her! VGU her! She looks like a cheap showgirl hooker now when paired next to Swain, and it's now far, far too difficult to take her seriously as a powerhouse in Noxus when she looks as old and tacky as she currently does.

Dead flag bluesJan 24, 20182 votes

That's because she was able to delete adc, now she has to stay 3 seconds in range of an adc (who can deal burst damage with his aa, don't forget) in order to kill him

datfatguyJan 24, 20182 votes

Can't tell if you agree with me or not. But this is exactly the kind of thing I mean. What kind of an assassin stands there for 3 seconds doing nothing and definitely by then her opponent has figured out their next move? I hate to say this, but assassin will always have to be able to delete champions, or else don't give them that class name.

DauntJan 25, 20183 votes

Enemies need time to react. Just because you're an assassin doesn't mean you should always delete someone. Planning and positioning goes into account as well when you're trying to attempt an assassination. I like the direction that they went in with delays but i agree that they were not implemented that well on LB. Regardless, this iteration of her is still healthier than the previous one. They also stated that they didn't really want to rework her but that she'd be too good comparing to other assassins if her burst window got untouched. And i think everyone can agree with that.

Vapor Wave VibesJan 24, 20182 votes

Revert talon as well. Talon is so linear in a fight now, shorter range and abilities too delayed. Sure I can jump 100 walls but how does that help me do dmg in a short period of time like an assassin should do

vodrio12Jan 25, 20181 votes

Old Talon was also underpowered tho

Fizz AkabaneJan 24, 20181 votes

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datfatguyJan 24, 20182 votes

LOL I saw your comment on someone else's thread. Seems like you're a Fizz main. A revert to him would be pretty nice as well, though.

Fizz AkabaneJan 24, 20182 votes

Seems like you're a Fizz main

I was :[

datfatguyJan 24, 20183 votes

Yeah. I used to play a lot of LeBlanc until Riot decided to kill her. Same goes with old Rengar. I know how you feel.

Pale PirateJan 24, 20181 votes

I'm a little curious, how does the new Fizz feel different from the old one?

Lord Phazanor Jan 25, 20182 votes

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I'm a little curious, how does the new Fizz feel different from the old one?

You can't quickly burst. You have to either auto them and wait 2 seconds to hit them again, or you ult them and hope they're dumb enough to stay where they are for 2 seconds (instead of rushing to his tower/allies or using Zhonya or Stopwatch and denying you).
It's basically the same issue as LB. Maybe on paper delayed burst is more fair, but in-game, it's just not fun to play and really unwieldy.
Also, why pick Fizz or LB if a Zed can burst you without delay (his ult damage is delayed but the death mark proc often isn't required to kill your laner in a solo fight or to deal decent damage in a trade, unlike Fizz or LB).

Pale PirateJan 25, 20182 votes

Wow I've never thought of Fizz as similar to Leblanc! Thanks for answering, and join me next to the campfire brother, for I am a Leblanc main.

RainfallJan 25, 20181 votes

we already have 1 zoei

Infernal IronicJan 25, 20181 votes

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She is actually terrible now. I haven't seen a LeBlanc at all recently, let alone one doing well as her. Her new kit gives the enemies way too much time to figure out how to escape her, which really ruins that assassin feel she used to have. I really saw nothing wrong with her old kit, so can we please have it back? If you don't want to undo her rework, at least make it so her passive is ready almost instantly, so she can go back to being an assassin. But I would prefer to have old LB back.

Another one of this revert Le blanc threads. ARGHHH

Le blanc never needed a rework, Specially when there are 60 other champions who need a rework but she got one oh well
However they did Rework Le blanc And I rate it as 5% - 10% improvement. My opinion matters extra Because I was #1 Le blanc WORLD "Poske" main
Now Would I suggest Riot to make more reworks which have so low improvement % No.Rather Rework Nunu and stuff you cannot possibly fail at

Le blanc is top tier midlaner you are just struggling with le blanc. I ll take an educated guess and give you some tips and her proper build so you can be more successful

THIS IS THE ONLY GOOD LE BLANC BUILD. There is an alterntive build which includes sorc shoes but this is slightly better item 3145 > item 1058 / item 3057 > / > item 3285 / item 3100 > / > item 3135 / item 3152 > /

Why is this her core build? Because her clone procs Revolver, Sheen and lichbane. This is something not even PRO players know And it has seperate cooldown. So you can literaly proc Lichbane and revolver twice withing a short frame like 0.3 seconds. This is why LE BLANC is top tier champion but only in a hands of the best players. Go in practice tool learn to control her clone

Now you ll see a lots of /

NLR gives better waveclear Sheen gives better 1vs1 + it is extremly effective 1vs1

Also this items are at diff price points sometimes you are forced to get sheen

Idealy you want to get some ap Before finishing lichbane (this is why atleast extra NLR is relevan or stacked dark seal for example )

Ludens is a best item when rushed early on. And you are rushing it really early on. Other mages are forced to go Nomicon since they all have massive mana issues before ludens and that is even assuming ludens is good on them

Le blanc aside from katarina is a best ludens stacker in game

If you are playing against enemy with bunch of mr hold onto sheen as long as you can since it can do massive physical damage But you can generaly fuse Either lich or ludens first

Voidstaff/Protobelt depends whether you need more tempo 10% CDR + active itself 300 hp tankiness (vs syndra) or to melt those tanks.

Dont build boots. Ludens/Lich + aether wisp /Ludens/lich is more then enough. I believe ludens + lich puts you at 397 ms

After those 4 items you still have 2 slots but a game should be already over. I like banshee after it

ShinyMoneyFeb 23, 20181 votes

leblanc can still crush and one shot easy. While i dont see many leblancs, shes still my go to pick. Of course winning lane isnt as free as she was pre rework, but she was just dumb then. If you know how to play her and know what combos to use shes just as free as she was before. Reverting the rework would just bring her back into the spotlight... And we dont want her banned everygame or changed... Again.

datfatguyFeb 23, 20181 votes

Yeah she can one shot, but she does NOT feel like she can carry anymore. In fact, no AP champion or assassin feels like they can carry anymore

ShinyMoneyFeb 28, 20181 votes

Ekko? Ori?

datfatguyFeb 28, 20181 votes

Eh, maybe I over exaggerated a bit, but fed adc = win. What happened to mid lane and top lane carrying as well?