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can we please have morg heal off small minions again?

SwiftKitten88··4 votes·408 views

i mean normal small minions.. not just large ones..

i mean in general support don't split push.. but Morgana is was actually VERY good at it, because she could stay at full hp.. and clear the wave (which not many supports are good at doing) this couple with the fact she has a spellshield and item 3092 which gives speed boosts and a slow and her snare. actaully make her a great splitpusher when your team is too damn stupid to take objectives. (sorry, lower elo issues). because she was nearly always able to get in and out safely or even 1v1 someone. (because if you can make the enemy teams have to send more than 1 person to stop the SUPPORT form split-pushing, it usually makes up for your team not knowing how to play)

but now that she doesn't heal off minions it is a lot harder to do. especially when you are trying to cut a huge wave after the enemy just took baron so the enemy cant empower it, and your allies are too dumb to do it. (again lower elo issues)

maybe only 5% heal off small minions? (aka quarter value)

obviously idk what the exact value should be because it used to be affected by the aoe rule on spellvamp, so 5% may be too little or too much. but if can make it slightly less than she used it that would make up for it getting to 20% at earlier levels..

4 Comments

Eedat2 votes

i mean in general support don't split push

Wasnt the point to push her toward to mid or jungle? Thats what people were asking for

Mysticman891 votes

Got to keep in mind solo lane morg as well as support morg around this sort of balance, so if support morg is a capable splutpusher, than mid morg is likely to be an OP splitpusher which would be no bueno.

You can still splitpush with her if you're so inclined, but you'll need to be careful about it rather than having a steady stream of sustain.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Got to keep in mind solo lane morg as well as support morg around this sort of balance, so if support morg is a capable splutpusher, than mid morg is likely to be an OP splitpusher which would be no bueno.

You can still splitpush with her if you're so inclined, but you'll need to be careful about it rather than having a steady stream of sustain.

morg will always be op in mid lane.. becuase she is too damn safe. she W the wave and walks back under tower.. you cant even gank her easily unless u can bait out her spellshield. and god forbid you try to dive her with her snare and her spellshield.

infact the reason she wasn't played mid lane had NOTHING to do with he not being ABLE to.. it becuase it was BORING

in mid lane you press W kil the wave and walk under tower.. as support you can to try to land binding aginst 2 differenty targets.. its much more FUN.

it had nothighn to do with her beaing WEAK.. she is just more FUN as support

Azadethe1 votes

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morg will always be op in mid lane.. becuase she is too damn safe. she W the wave and walks back under tower.. you cant even gank her easily unless u can bait out her spellshield. and god forbid you try to dive her with her snare and her spellshield.

infact the reason she wasn't played mid lane had NOTHING to do with he not being ABLE to.. it becuase it was BORING

in mid lane you press W kil the wave and walk under tower.. as support you can to try to land binding aginst 2 differenty targets.. its much more FUN.

it had nothighn to do with her beaing WEAK.. she is just more FUN as support

Nah. She isn't played mid because several mids were reworked in ways that are prohibitive to her play.

She may have an awesome kit, but Katarina makes dodging slow moving Q's pretty trivial, as does Zed, and long range nukers like Ziggs or Xerath completely push her out of lane. Anivia has also become a problem, as has Azir. Then there's Syndra and Orianna.

She may have safe farm but she has a ton of counters now who just eat right through spell shield, and counter cc or just outright assassinate. Duskblade particularly has made her relatively weaker.

And yeah. I know. When you DO land vs the champs I mentioned, sometimes you can indeed get the kill. But if we're talking about high elo, that rarely happens.

What bugs me right now isn't her heals so much: while it sucks she can't heal like a Nasus anymore, there's 2 things really making her feel sloppy vs good teams:

  1. She's lost any defense she used to have from the old Resolve Tree, because it just no longer fits in her kit. This reduces her ability to effectively use her ult by about 2/3, because she's become EXTREMELY squishy with the limited heals and the loss of armor/resist.

  2. Without her ult, her kit is effectively 2 skills. Q and W. Black Shield rarely is needed from range. This has made her very analog. Q >W >W etc. She now spends most of the game not using her ult, but just running around snaring people and harassing with W.

I could also add: Comet is about 1/3 as effective on Morg as other mages that use it. It misses often, and there really isn't many other alternatives for Morg. She can 100% land it on a Q, but 90% of Morg's spell casts are free spam of W, which usually puts comet on cooldown for the Q's.

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