What is Jhins weakness outside of a small delay after his 4th auto?

Valhalla Rising·Jul 8, 2016·6 votes·1,186 views

Real talk..

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OleandervineJul 8, 201613 votes

If you get in his face, he melts like a wax candle at a bonfire.

TyrekGoldenspearJul 9, 20161 votes

Such an artful portrayal of the Virtuoso's inevitable demise. +1.

MunchCrunchLunchJul 9, 20162 votes

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If you get in his face, he melts like a wax candle at a bonfire.

man thats not like any other squishie in the game. wow deep words

Miss LuxannaJul 8, 20168 votes

Lack of mobility. He needs his team to protect him while he deals out damage.

CaptnJakSparrowJul 8, 20166 votes

if he gets caught he gets deleted.

ReshiKillimJul 8, 20164 votes

It's easy to dodge his W and ult because they're thin skillshots.

MarshbouyJul 8, 20164 votes

lack of mobility not good at taking towers fixed attack speed squishy needs team to protect him during ult

AptestJul 8, 20161 votes

fixed ASPD not a weakness. that's only something that is used for DPS and jhin has alternative DPS mechanics

MarshbouyJul 8, 20161 votes

it makes life steal less good on him he isnt as good at tank shredding and certain items like BOTRK are terrible on him.

AstôlfoJul 8, 20162 votes

Uh, it means he can't take towers as consistently fast (meh-meh-meh-BOOM-delaaaaaay-meh-meh-meh-BOOM-repeat). He also can't take high health targets as fast without being sufficiently fed. And he has a huge reload time.

D3m37r1Jul 8, 20163 votes

The fact that the small delay after his 4th shot isn't actually small

SoundChaosDebugJul 8, 20161 votes

Art

Umbra ZJul 8, 20161 votes

Not much you can do in lane if he has someone like a soraka but late game just jump on him and kick his ass as a jungler if bot is losing just get your midlaner fed so he can delete jhin lategame

AptestJul 8, 20161 votes

no jump skill, ultrabeam has long cast delay so hard to use close up.

DefendedJul 8, 20161 votes

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Real talk..

I wouldnt listen to any of these guys. They keep saying Jhins weakness is ''mobility'' Well he has jinxs passive after every auto so if his weakness was really mobility then that means nobody would ever ever play jinx.

Also they say ''if you get in his face he melts''.. Well yeah.. Every fucking adc in the game would melt if you're in their face lets be real.

Jhins broken. People know it

AstôlfoJul 8, 20163 votes

I can't tell if you're trolling or one of those people who just cry about everything for no reason.

DefendedJul 8, 20161 votes

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I can't tell if you're trolling or one of those people who just cry about everything for no reason.

When you get out of bronze 4 and into higher elo. Some people will actually shock you at how great they play jhin. No that is not a diss thats a truth. Same thing goes for a lot vaynes. Once you hit diamond its not as easy to bully

SithesisLordJul 8, 20162 votes

Well, let´s see.

Ashe has a slow and an ult that stuns. Jinx has her chompers. MF has a slow. Twitch has invisibility. Sivir has a speed boost ult and a spellshield. Kog has a slow and melts anyone because Guinsoo's exists. Caitlyn has her traps and her net. Quinn has her nearsight and her vault. Draven has his stand aside. Varus has a slow and a root ult. Tristana has her rocket jump. Ezreal has a blink. Vayne has condemn and tumble. Lucian has a dash. Corki has a dash. Urgot is Urgot. Kalista can kite for days.

What does Jhin have? A root. A conditional one at that.

Get in his face and he's dead with no ways of escape. The others still have a chance to survive.

Besides, i´m more scared of a 0/6 Vayne in the late game than i am scared of a 15/0 Jhin in the late game.

And i play Kayle everywhere i can. Even bot lane at times. Jhin is easy to deal with. Even when fed.

And what the heck are you doing complaining about a bronze? You´re platinum. Platinum is a shinier Silver. You can polish crap as much as you want to. It´ll look shinier, but it´s still crap.

DefendedJul 8, 20161 votes

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Well, let´s see.

Ashe has a slow and an ult that stuns. Jinx has her chompers. MF has a slow. Twitch has invisibility. Sivir has a speed boost ult and a spellshield. Kog has a slow and melts anyone because Guinsoo's exists. Caitlyn has her traps and her net. Quinn has her nearsight and her vault. Draven has his stand aside. Varus has a slow and a root ult. Tristana has her rocket jump. Ezreal has a blink. Vayne has condemn and tumble. Lucian has a dash. Corki has a dash. Urgot is Urgot. Kalista can kite for days.

What does Jhin have? A root. A conditional one at that.

Get in his face and he's dead with no ways of escape. The others still have a chance to survive.

And what the heck are you doing complaining about a bronze? You´re platinum. Platinum is a shinier Silver. You can polish crap as much as you want to. It´ll look shinier, but it´s still crap.

''What does Jhin have''

Jhin has a root, an aoe slow, and 4 more slows on each bullet. have you played the fuckin champ

SithesisLordJul 8, 20161 votes

Not sure if you noticed, but all of Jhin's CC is dodgeable or isn´t even all that noticeable, like his lotus slow. Easy to walk out of.

DefendedJul 8, 20161 votes

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Not sure if you noticed, but all of Jhin's CC is dodgeable or isn´t even all that noticeable, like his lotus slow. Easy to walk out of.

Is caitlyns trap dodgeable? is Jinxs traps dodgeable? Is Ashes ult dodgeable? Does sivir have a CC? Does lucian have a CC? Is Mfs E dodgeable?

How do you use that argument for jhin ''His stuff is dodgeable'' but not the other adcs?

SithesisLordJul 8, 20161 votes

Caitlyn traps are snares, Jinx traps are snares, Ashe's ult is a stun, Sivir doesn´t have CC, but she has two ways to surviving/escaping.

Lucian can dash away, MF's E is bigger than Jhin's lotus traps and does damage on cast, with no delays.

Jhin's only hard CC is a conditional one and it´s easier to miss. His traps only damage after a delay and erratical movements ensure his ult will miss more often than hit.

Caitlyn can throw traps on the very tip of brushes and no one will see unless they have wards, therefore risking getting snared if they enter.

If Jhin throws a trap on the very tip of a brush, they´ll know the trap is there because of the slow and walk away.

His stuff is more easily dodged because they´re so unreliable in stopping/killing someone.

Wanna escape using your traps? Can´t because delays. Wanna escape using your root? The chances are slim because it´s narrow and conditional. Wanna kill someone using your ult? Unless you can see them, you have to rely on luck and guessing.

DefendedJul 8, 20161 votes

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Caitlyn traps are snares, Jinx traps are snares, Ashe's ult is a stun, Sivir doesn´t have CC, but she has two ways to surviving/escaping.

Lucian can dash away, MF's E is bigger than Jhin's lotus traps and does damage on cast, with no delays.

Jhin's only hard CC is a conditional one and it´s easier to miss. His traps only damage after a delay and erratical movements ensure his ult will miss more often than hit.

Caitlyn can throw traps on the very tip of brushes and no one will see unless they have wards, therefore risking getting snared if they enter.

If Jhin throws a trap on the very tip of a brush, they´ll know the trap is there because of the slow and walk away.

His stuff is more easily dodged because they´re so unreliable in stopping/killing someone.

Wanna escape using your traps? Can´t because delays. Wanna escape using your root? The chances are slim because it´s narrow and conditional. Wanna kill someone using your ult? Unless you can see them, you have to rely on luck and guessing.

The point of Jhins E is not to ''get lucky and hit them''. Its to slow them and press W because they are slowed so its a lot easier to root them.

''If jhin throws a trap on the very tip of a brush, they'll know the trap is there because of the slow and walk away''

What. If How are they going to know a trap is there. They have to step in it first. If they step in it first then they dont know its there

Do you speak english?

''Wanna escape using your traps? cant because delays''

Yeah i mean... Caitlyn and jinxs traps arent instant either buddy.

''Wanna escape using your root? the chances are slim because its narrow and conditional''

Yes i would hope a root is slim and not an aoe?...

''Wanna kill someone using your ult? unless you can see them you have to rely on luck and guessing''

I MEAN ID PRAY THE DAY RIOT RELEASES AN ULT WHERE PEOPLE PRESS R WITHOUT VISION AND GET THE KILL?

You're the most fuckin biased person ive ever seen. Ill leave it at that.

zlumpyJul 8, 20161 votes

Very immobile and squishy, but yeah that damage he gets is pretty crazy.

khorneyJul 8, 20161 votes

slow, no escape immobile

AstôlfoJul 8, 20161 votes

As someone who's third highest ranked champ is Jhin, the five biggest that come to mind are:

Lack of any sort of mobility at all except for the small MS buff after hitting a crit (aka, fourth shot or getting a crit on a regular auto) which really isn't reliable enough at all.
Lack of any sort of good peel - sure, he can root you. But if you get in his face, he's not going to have time to auto/whatever and then root you before you kill him near instantly.
Like any other ADC, he's incredibly squishy.
He does not have Attack Speed like almost every single other ADC which means he can't just spam right click forever. His first four autos are pretty much worthless till way in late game, his fourth is easy to deny as long as you just stay out of his range and respect it while he holds it until he's forced to shoot/reload anyways, and a massive delay which does not change (as far as I remember).
A lot slower at CSing until later in.

So on and so forth.

warpenguin555Jul 8, 20161 votes

No escapes

NekusenJul 9, 20161 votes

delay between 1-2 delay between 2-3 delay between 3-4 the fact he can't build attack speed assassins people that can dodge W and Ult people that can get close to him no gap closer no disengage

Hayaishi2Jul 9, 20161 votes

He lacks mobility and raw DPS. I mean he is one of the few well designed ADCs (kit is a bit overloaded but he still has healthy mechanics) that doesn't need mobility or a hundred steroids to work like Jinx does.

GibberwattJul 9, 20161 votes

His only real power is that he can easily do 1k+ damage per auto. Otherwise, I feel like he is a big ball of weaknesses: He has zero escape, zero cc (unless you count a very iffy root), and not a whole lot of tankyness. He also has that whole reloading thing