Why do Krugs need to take forever to kill throughout the entire match?
Maybe the duplication into mini Krugs process could speed up as the game progresses until they instantly duplicate at a certain point mid-late game?
I just feel it's ridiculous when you can kill Drakes faster than Krugs. Hell even Baron dies faster eventually.
It Hertz When IP89 votesI think it was supposed to slow clear speeds for junglers that are already struggling in the jungle.
500000000000000022 votesThe idea was to allow farm junglers to spend more time farming and rewarding them with extra XP.
SoryInAdvance9 votesare there any meta farm junglers?
MagikarpIsBoss7 votesmeta
Knoyle10 votesNo,
and are.
Admiral Annie3 votesNo,
Knoyle1 votesI haven't seen him in a while. He's being outshined by the Diver Jungler Trio. (Before you say Graves isn't a Diver, Graves is anything he wants to be because he can be Tanky, Bursty, Mobile all while playing checkers on the side.
Admiral Annie1 votesI haven't seen him in a while. He's being outshined by the Diver Jungler Trio. (Before you say Graves isn't a Diver, Graves is anything he wants to be because he can be Tanky, Bursty, Mobile all while playing checkers on the side.
I totally agree Graves is the meta. Lethality Graves is a problem to everyone. But like Zac is real good in good hands too. Like Hecarim's fat brother.
Ørdeal1 votes
Jungle or gtfo
MagikarpIsBoss1 votesBronze meta is not the meta. Just because we may see them doesnt mean they are meta.
Faustavian2 votesWelcome, to the wondrous world of 
Riotplaytestpenguin56 votes
Swarovsko17 votesPLEASE NERF HIM I BEG YOU
Velzard of Koz14 votesHe's playtest analyst, you should beg him to manipulate playtest result so that it looks like Graves has 200% winrate and they'll nerf him :^)
Swarovsko3 votesMy bad. I'm so tired of banning him every time I can, I'm just desperate.
DeathBot66610 votesThey already took his cigar.
What more can riot do to him?
cope moment17 votesgive his cigar back so his lungs get diseased
DrCyanide52 votesWouldn't that just make him...
... more cancerous?
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1 800 MID LANE13 votesTake my fucking upvote...
Romtheguy1 votesdid you just - [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Take my upvote and live on.
SoryInAdvance5 votesoh. I was under the impression that a "farm jungler" was someone that cleared well but sucked early. And I know that graves doesn't suck early...or at any point in the game actually. I played him for like the second time like a week ago and got a penta.
DepressedAhri1 votesHis teamfighting is actually pretty bad.
SoryInAdvance1 votesuhh...have you ever played against a graves? q and r and there's 2 people crippled at least.
DepressedAhri1 votesI've actually been playing Graves myself recently, and while he's good at making picks, he is not good at teamfighting.
SoryInAdvance1 votesYeah, that's just not true dude.
TheSingularity4 votesWhy does graves recieve special treatment with his knock back autos on monsters? I feel if that was removed he would be a far more balanced jungler. Besides he's already tanky enough to not kite monsters
Gnart Even Close2 votesMaybe still knock back small monsters, just not large ones? That would make more sense thematically and hit his clear without gutting it.
TheSingularity1 votesThat technically makes sense for 
headshots 
Q enhanced autos 
rockets 
as his weapon hits just as hard theoretically 
enhanced auto.
He doesn't need a knock back whatsoever. Kindred doesn't get one, has a mega nerfed heal, has low burst and is squishy af, yet was designed to jungle.
He doesn't need it and never did. It was just a tacked on feature to ENSURE graves would succeed in the jungle. Why else would they do it to just him, and not the champions I listed?
Failog1 votesReally? You guys change the entire jungle just because you made Graves too strong? Brilliant.
Mistress Madoka1 votes1 Camp =/= the entire Jungle
But still I see your point
QuickenedBlade1 votesHoly shit I've never seen a Rito with a rank higher than plat 5. I give my virtual claps to u. I de_stroyed meddler with urgod on my way up to diamond
SoryInAdvance1 votesPhreak? I rarely see rioters below plat.
WillSmithasaurus1 voteshelpful
IceKingChernobog1 votesThe idea was to allow farm junglers to spend more time farming and rewarding them with extra XP.
But we all know how that turned out, anyone with decent to fast clears can abuse krugs and be at level 3 when most lanes are barely level 2 allowing them to cheese gank bot lane repeatedly.
50000000000000002 votesThat got patched a while ago. The first Krugs don't grant extra XP from my understanding.
IceKingChernobog1 votesThat got patched a while ago. The first Krugs don't grant extra XP from my understanding.
Yeah, it got patched some time back.
Purpl3Jungl33 votesi try to always skip krugs. >.<
Standgrounding3 votesBut they provide ALOT of gold.... learned that the hard way with 
counterjungling me there and taking mine, I've learned they are important.
My Waifu Vanilla4 votesI love when my jungler stops doing Krugs after like 8 minutes when I'm red side top lane GP. Getting like 400 gold from a camp is pretty neat due to parley and barrels.
SnowFall2 votesI liked old Golems, 2 monsters means = not really single-target like Gromp and not really AOE-centered like wolves. It was perfect, why there was need to change, I honestly don't have a single clue..
Mr Urgod2 votesI like Kruggs early cause it at least saves you from too much damage at once, and having some time to have your abilities back up, but late game, it's pointless to do Kruggs to me, since you one shot them, but sit there and wait for them to split.
