Daily reminder to nerf Troll Pole

Valhalla Rising·May 8, 2016·157 votes·4,031 views

You've been reminded.

51 Comments

HazyCloud7May 8, 201630 votes

Yeah, give it an actual cooldown. 4.4 seconds at max CDR is silly for such a game changing ability.

KantoweruMay 9, 201620 votes

There are a lot of strong/game changing abilities that have short cooldowns once you have max CDR. Lux can throw out her entire combo every 30ish seconds (including ultimate) instantly one-shotting nearly anyone. Morgana can chain CC someone for days between her QRQ combo with max CDR. The list goes on - discussing a champion's kit based on them having a combination of 3+ items worth of CDR isn't really a conversation worth having.

Take advantage of Fizz when he is weak - bully him out of lane pre-3 and chase after him hard if he uses his E to farm, its got a huge mana cost and cooldown early. Every champion in this game has weaknesses, you just have to exploit them properly. Picking Twisted Fate, Viktor or other immobile champions into an assassin that excels in mobility is going to hurt - its not about a broken kit but more about poor decision making on your part.

Lord GalvatronMay 9, 20161 votes

ArakadiaMay 9, 20164 votes

Once he gets a full item, his weakness is gone pretty much.

KantoweruMay 9, 20164 votes

Considering games average around 30ish minutes - Fizz should never hit full build and if he is stacking CDR (which most do) then his AP is lower than normal as they nerfed all the previous Fizz items (Hourglass/Abyssal both have significantly less AP).

Again, CC is your friend against Fizz at all points of the game. Doesn't matter how fed he is if he can't cast spells/dash around.

ArakadiaMay 9, 20165 votes

It's hard to land CC when he can dodge it so easily and/or gapcloser so fast.

McprowlingtonMay 9, 20169 votes

"Pick a different champion" is never acceptable counterplay.

What you're saying about morg isn't even true and you bringing up the idea of poor decision making is ironic considering the issue we're specifically talking about is how a character having such a reliable escape on such a low cooldown means he doesn't have to worry about making poor decisions

DarkSunSovereignMay 9, 20166 votes

Suuuure. Cuz it's super easy to chase down someone with such high base ms.

five oh tree May 9, 20163 votes

because 335 ms is so high, right? smfh.

DarkSunSovereignMay 9, 20162 votes

Higher than many

five oh tree May 12, 20161 votes

lowest MS in game is 325. Highest is 355. He's lower than the average of those two numbers (340). He actually has very low MS for an assassin.

DeusVultMay 9, 20161 votes

and ignores unit collision

Sergeant HawkMay 9, 20165 votes

Thank you. I'm so tired of people complaining about broken champs when there are always ways to beat them. For all the Winey people on the boards u are one of the first to actually make sense. Thanks haha

hgjkdlsaf jeldvbMay 10, 20161 votes

that's just damage and some cc though... Fizz gets offense, defense, mobility, and cc on one ability...

LlaniteMay 9, 20162 votes

How "game changing"?

It does nothing to his team, or the other team, all it does is mitigating an ability flying on him, and a slow. Please refer to AurelionSol Chogath Anivia for real game changing on basic ability, which destroy the entire team if caught.

morris1May 9, 20166 votes

Because being able to negate absolutely every single non-DoT ability in the game isn't game changing.

SoryInAdvanceMay 9, 20161 votes

and then fall down and do a crap ton of damage to everyone in a decent sized area.

LlaniteMay 10, 20161 votes

How exactly does it "change" the game when all it does is trading one ability for another?

It can swing a duel, yes, but not a game, hence, not a "game changer".

Blitz Q, Cho Q or Sol Q is the real "game changer", as it leads to 1-5 deaths if pulled properly. Fizz trades his E to mitigate another ability, it does nothing to his team, or the other.

The only affected party is Fizz himself, and the person firing at him.

MyTeamIsAwsomeMay 9, 20162 votes

But fizz player need a 4 second cooldown troll pole to be able to use it again since they have the memory of a fish 😮

AlüeMay 9, 20161 votes

lmao the best part is they nerfed zhonya because the invulnerability aspect is to much... wait doesn't fizz troll poll do the same shit just not as long?

Fisherman FízzMay 9, 20161 votes

Fizz isnt invulnerable while on his E, hes untargetable, he can still die from Ignite or any DoT, delayed abilities like Zed and Vlad ults or Tristana E are just examples

Fisherman FízzMay 8, 201621 votes

Being reminded that troll pole needs a nerf - Checked

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Kat GoddessMay 9, 20161 votes

Ew.....

Lord GalvatronMay 9, 20169 votes

Daily reminder that no one cares about pointless and groundless daily reminders

ghood4lifeMay 9, 20164 votes

"groundless"

kek

Lord GalvatronMay 9, 20161 votes

Just got the unintentional joke, does Cass W work on Fizz E?

KING 5HARKMay 9, 20161 votes

Yes

Bladerunner7777May 9, 20169 votes

The fact that this is getting this many upvotes proves how hive-minded and unreasonable the boards can be

ArakadiaMay 9, 20165 votes

It is a circle jerk but for a good cause

Hatless CasualMay 9, 20166 votes

Best fix for it would honestly remove the CDR from items and the cool down starts when you land, not upon casting it.

Apostle of LightMay 9, 20165 votes

What is troll pole...?

DrProfVibeCheckMay 9, 20169 votes

Fizz E.

FowusMay 9, 20164 votes

keep crying

71883083DEL1May 9, 20164 votes

keep crying [2]

ProeliumMay 9, 20163 votes

4.4 Second Cd on....

Flash/Nuke/Hourglass/AOE Slow

Awesome.

ModAcademy KaynMay 9, 20163 votes

Not Hourglass, just intargetable. He can still die by DoTs

ProeliumMay 9, 20162 votes

{quoted}

Not Hourglass, just intargetable. He can still die by DoTs

Ok, vlad pool.

SentinosMay 9, 20162 votes

Trundle OP AF. Counters all my mains, and counters every single champion. What counters trundle? (TROLOLOLOL)

Lord GalvatronMay 10, 20162 votes

In order to counter Trundle, you must buy 6 Tear of the Goddess. Because Trundle is so broken since his Q has a 2.2 second cooldown at max CDR, you must buy items that reflect the salty tears of all the people that believe all annoying champions are OP. Trundle will then take pity on your soul, and try to encourage his team to surrender in order ease your pain and suffering.

SentinosMay 10, 20161 votes

Thank you for your wisdom, oh dank Gaben.

60751609DEL1May 9, 20162 votes

They should make Fizz's E a dodge, like Jax's E. Or something so that he won't be practically invincible while he's up there.

KING 5HARKMay 9, 20165 votes

He isnt, ignite, dots and Zed ult can kill him

DarkBillyBoyMay 9, 20161 votes

yeah, same like elise's e

60751609DEL1May 10, 20161 votes

Holy crap. I didn't know that. Well then. Thanks for the heads up, guys. I thought that he was immune to all debuffs while he's up there, but if that's the case, then I guess his E isn't as bad as I thought.

Celeste BenalMay 9, 20162 votes

Played Veigar last night. Watched Fizz literally pole-vault over my Event Horizon. Still killed him because Overwhelming Evil is OP.

Ronin TamosMay 9, 20161 votes

Catching fishes with bait and baiting fishchamp fizz´es E ......similarity anyone?

egirls r fat irlMay 9, 20161 votes

TBH, thought we were talking about nerfing Trundle E. I was super confused.

Icestar1186May 9, 20161 votes

Daily reminder that these threads are annoying.

You've been reminded.

ChaosThiefMay 9, 20161 votes

Not so daily reminder that this isn't a daily reminder unless you repost it every day.

Leu07May 10, 20161 votes

I think they should nerf the aoe damage diameter, i think it is too big when he falls, you may move to avoid the damage, but it is just too big, or nerf the travel distance. It is already too troll and you give it a pretty big aoe damage area and he moves too far away with it.