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Can't Believe I'm Saying This, But Yasuo Needs Defense Buffs

Smitemuffin··1 votes·672 views

Let's get this straight: I hate assassins. I think they're cheap I-Win Buttons who get all the advantages with almost none of the drawbacks. But then there's THIS GUY Yasuo

His base stats SUCK. Pathetically low base hp, no level-scaling MR (unlike other melee carry/assassin Riven ). Stat-for-stat, he's lower than any comparable AD assassin and he's pigeonholed into massively expensive crit items before he can begin to fulfill his role.

If nobody's noticed, his ultimate stuns him. He's a squishy melee assassin who dives into a team and FUCKING STUNS HIMSELF. It's sad that I, as a Viktor main of almost 3 years consider this AD assassin (I never buy item 3157 on Viktor) to be one of my best matchups. Abusable in lane, if he ults anyone else in a team fight, I can 100-0 him before his ult even makes him moveable.

In interest of shudder, suppress vomit fairness can we at least make him untargetable but still able to be hit by AoEs while he's in his ult? That would go a long way to making him more than a fly to swat.

12 Comments

O Fallen Scholar2 votes

No. Stuns himself? He also stuns the enemy team for YOUR team. You're playing him badly.

Smitemuffin1 votes

He stuns the enemy team in a circle smaller than his E+Q aoe. It's been a while since I was ranked Silver 5, but I'm pretty sure even THEY don't stand 5 people in a 500-unit wide circle. Certainly don't see it in my ranking.

And the whole time he's in his ult, he's stuck and vulnerable. Any 3-item adc can kill him by the time he hits ground. A 3-item mage will kill him even before that.

Cenobite Azaziel2 votes

Yasuo need defensive buffs! So a shield that refreshes with ult (500 hp each), a wind wall that negates AA and anything people throw at him and can suck up ults and insane mobility that means good luck hitting your skilll shot isn't enough?

Smitemuffin1 votes

500 hp is nothing without resistances (that's also only at level 18 where mages are shitting out 2.5-3.5k damage a burst). Ever notice his MR doesn't scale? Or that his flow shield lasts a whole second? It's faded by the time he unstuns himself from his ult (they're both a second long).

That windwall doesn't stop a thing when melee bruisers are so powerful. Nevermind that Azir and Viktor can easily avoid his wall as they have virtually no projectiles. Yasuo can get countered by a fly swatter

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

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500 hp is nothing without resistances (that's also only at level 18 where mages are shitting out 2.5-3.5k damage a burst). Ever notice his MR doesn't scale? Or that his flow shield lasts a whole second? It's faded by the time he unstuns himself from his ult (they're both a second long).

Please. Understand the champion kit before asking for buffs. Yasuo shield REFRESHES when he ults. So unless there is someone trying to focus you outside your ult, you get a free 520 hp shield. Yasuo is a melee adcarry. He deal insane damage., can deal more damage over time and in aoe than any ADC (because his Q get cdr for aspd%) Has insane mobility that makes skill shots horrible to hit (including your laser) and has a backup, the overpowered wind wall, clear like a god even under the tower because of his E and can split push and has a insane power spike with just one item. Now you want him to be like darius? 5 months ago SHEN, freaking SHEN, the god like tank had NO MR per level. 0, nada, void. SHEN dude. Maokai has no MR per level.

That windwall doesn't stop a thing when melee bruisers are so powerful. Nevermind that Azir and Viktor can easily avoid his wall as they have virtually no projectiles. Yasuo can get countered by a fly swatter

Viktor is what we call a COUNTER PICK. His kit is yasuo nightmare. " Ohhh the matchup is boring! Making him stronger!!!!" . Don't do that. If you think the matchup is uneven pick ahri that yasuo counters or ask for nerfs for your champion. Don't ask for buffs for an overloaded champion and make others people life miserable because you want yasuo surpass all roles in the game.

Smitemuffin1 votes

Did you read what I'd proposed? Leaving him untargetable but still susceptible to AoE is a long way from problematic.

His refreshing shield is irrelevant given its duration the fact that his ult is an engage tool and that his being melee makes him take many times greater damage than ranged ADC. There's a reason why even a fed Yasuo (including at the professional level) has alot of deaths. At this point especially, there's just a hell of alot more damage floating around: warrior is buffed, Devourer is incredible, tons of AP items (including Deathcap's multiplier) got buffed a few patches ago, Luden's alone adds a flat 110 damage to any spell. Hell, even TANKS have more damage now. That leaves Yasuo just a little squishy for a champ so dependent on his team.

As for your remarks on Shen and Maokai: note also that both are tanks, both have % damage reduction and both have in-kit max health-based sustain.

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

{quoted}

Did you read what I'd proposed? Leaving him untargetable but still susceptible to AoE is a long way from problematic.

His refreshing shield is irrelevant given its duration the fact that his ult is an engage tool and that his being melee makes him take many times greater damage than ranged ADC. There's a reason why even a fed Yasuo (including at the professional level) has alot of deaths. At this point especially, there's just a hell of alot more damage floating around: warrior is buffed, Devourer is incredible, tons of AP items (including Deathcap's multiplier) got buffed a few patches ago, Luden's alone adds a flat 110 damage to any spell. Hell, even TANKS have more damage now. That leaves Yasuo just a little squishy for a champ so dependent on his team.

As for your remarks on Shen and Maokai: note also that both are tanks, both have % damage reduction and both have in-kit max health-based sustain.

" His shield is irrelevant!!!!" And yet you say you can burst him. If yasou don't wanna be bursted he can : A) Have his team peel for him., B) Get a good position C) Ult on someone else than the enemy tank.

While shen need to hit a skill shot and gets reduced damage from WHO he taunted, he actually has to pay with a skill slot from his shield. That is worse than yasuo. " But tanks deal more damage" You forgot he has crit damage, every ad item synergizes with him and also gets 50% armor pen for ulting? Dude. Master yi has less mobility, less tankyness, less steroids. So buff Yi to yasuo level a t least. " But the tanks have sustain!" - Yeah. And they deal less damage too. Consider yasuo shield kind of sustain or that yasuo can start doran blade for it. They have low clear waves. It's called trade off.

Yasuo is a team comp reliant champion. Champions have weaknesses. Oriana has low mobility, anivia no mobility at all, some champions fall off during late game. Yasuo NEEDS a weakness. If he dives on the enemy team leaving open who will burst him he'll probably die. If an ADC does the front line and don't kite, he will die. Not all heroes have the same play style.

Playing anything else vs yasou. Go on. PLEASE. Get a champion that don't counter him.

BigBlackBook1 votes

What are you talking about, buddy? You main Viktor, enough said, buddy.

Smitemuffin1 votes

There's nothing wrong with maining a fun champ. Yeah, Viktor sucked for the majority of the time I've played him, but he has fricking laser beams

BigBlackBook1 votes

And, buddy?

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

The title says it all. I can't believe youre saying this. And if YOU think so too. Why bother about it?

SEKAI1 votes

There is a problem in your first 2 sentences.

Yasuo is NOT an assassin.

Being able to 1 shot people when fed does not mean they're designed as an assassin, if that's the case anyone who isn't playing tank or support are playing assassins.

A carry is not supposed to have glorious early advantages.

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