The Flaw of Autofill In A Nutshell

Smitemuffin·12/2/2017, 12:05:45 AM·102 votes·2,804 views

Gets mid: dodge Gets mid: dodge Gets mid: dodge Gets mid: dodge Auto-filled to support

WOW OKAY. IT'S SO NICE THAT THE ONE WHO WAITS IN LINE LONGEST LOSES THEIR PREFERRED SPOT TO THE NEW PERSON WHO BARELY WAITED AT ALL #GREAT #FAIR #RIOTGAMES #NOTFRUSTRATINGATALL #GREATALGORITHIMS

60 Comments

Vapor Wave Vibes12/2/2017, 12:12:51 AM13 votes

You could try declining once. I never get autofilled after that but if i accept after a dodge i'm autofilled :p

EkyonKun12/2/2017, 7:34:49 AM12 votes

And you know what the WORST part is?

The worst part is you're now in a lose-lose scenario. If you play the game, that's 20-40 minutes of nearly wasted time. You dodge? Besides the obvious dodge penalty, you're also part of the problem now of "Get role, get role, get role, autofill."

Praying a Rioter sees this: How about if someone dodges and you remain in queue, you keep the role you got when that person dodged? So if the jungler dodged, everyone keeps their role, and the algorithm just looks for a jungler. Would that be the worst thing ever?

InfinitexMortal12/2/2017, 6:38:28 AM10 votes

Everytime someone dodges i learned to decline the ready check and start a new countdown. If i ever hit accept after a dodge i ALWAYS end up autofilled sup or jg. Honestly i dont think autofill belongs in a competitive game.

SuperLuigiLXIV12/2/2017, 12:28:06 AM6 votes

What makes you so sure you waited longer than they did?

Solidair312/2/2017, 3:30:37 PM6 votes

It would be nice if your role was locked before a dodge.

I personally don't mind getting filled, but if I wasn't filled initially, then it sucks because I lost one of the roles I really wanted to play and was told I was going to play but then NAH

DontTouchMyBall12/2/2017, 2:57:04 PM3 votes

Im supp main and by playing almost exceptionally support, idk what are long queue times and I dont get what ppl like you mean by "autofill system sucks".... well, except for the times when I do actually want to play any other role which some1 dodges sometimes many times in a row until I get my main role yet again of support... or simply get a troll support.

I just dont realise much of the system's problems since I dont care mch for the other roles, but when I do it gets annoying.

wangdoudou12/2/2017, 10:13:53 PM3 votes

Maybe you should learn all roles before jumping into ranked.

rtbf7610927112/2/2017, 6:54:02 AM2 votes

Make sure to leave queue and re-join every time a lobby fails. You will still get autofilled when your time comes but it prevents this scenario

DNFVixen12/2/2017, 3:00:45 PM2 votes

I am a support main but there is always that one game where i get my secondary of jungle, and usually the support doesn't want to trade.....

Karunamon12/2/2017, 3:20:27 AM2 votes

I'm no fan of autofill, but, perhaps, stop dodging and wasting 9 other people's time? 4 times in a row is just a wee bit excessive.

I can't read.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/975/912/034.jpg

Doctor Fillgood12/2/2017, 7:34:54 PM2 votes

{quoted}

Gets mid: dodge Gets mid: dodge Gets mid: dodge Gets mid: dodge Auto-filled to support

WOW OKAY. IT'S SO NICE THAT THE ONE WHO WAITS IN LINE LONGEST LOSES THEIR PREFERRED SPOT TO THE NEW PERSON WHO BARELY WAITED AT ALL #GREAT #FAIR #RIOTGAMES #NOTFRUSTRATINGATALL #GREATALGORITHIMS

And this is why I main support.
'You play support, you deserve not to climb. Learn to play a real role and carry.'

Our community is why auto fill will continue to be a thing...because supports that want to clime are insulted and told to do something else.

[EDIT] It said "Get good at support?" here but I don't recall ever typing that O.o

Troll for Trump12/3/2017, 10:24:18 AM2 votes

That's not the flaw of autofill. The flaw is that you often get sent to ADC/support, which are currently both some of the less popular yet most important roles in the game.

Pinkaj12/3/2017, 12:46:39 AM2 votes

Yup...I play support so it's not as easy to get autofilled to something else BUT those few times that I GET AUTOFILLED TO TOP, and I'm not a fan of tanking at all

russianshaco12/3/2017, 4:27:52 AM2 votes

this is just selection bias, you don't notice when someone dodges and you get your same role, and you don't notice when the first time you queue you dont get your main role. If you prefer mid then you will get your main role less often than someone who plays jungle or whatever, regardless of whether or not its your second queue.

Quepha12/2/2017, 5:43:46 AM2 votes

How do you know the person who got mid hasn't been waiting longer than you?

R7 Factor12/2/2017, 4:19:09 AM2 votes

Why didn't you just dodge like the other 4 people?

15812/2/2017, 7:04:34 AM1 votes

Autofill isn't that bad for lower ELO, it gets really bad at like diamond 3+

Hong Kong Annie12/2/2017, 5:09:48 AM1 votes

It kinda makes sense. The system filled you so you could find a game faster rather then waiting

SanKakU12/2/2017, 2:32:32 PM1 votes

The dodge bumps everyone from the lobby. Why it can't just wait for the person to come back is beyond me. If he fully abandons the match, then loses LP or gets some other penalty. Why shouldn't a match be mandatory to play out if you can't even surrender unless it's mostly unanimous and only at 15-20 minutes?

People that are dodging are getting to surrender without permission of their teammates, and way before the 15-20 minutes surrender vote time. Also, they don't even get a loss added to their stats. Dodging is dishonorable, and yet doing the math, anyone with their head on straight will see that they SHOULD dodge. To me, this is Riot allowing an exploit to shape the minds of the players and making them toxic. I hadn't given it a whole lot of thought in the past, but this is probably the biggest issue the game needs to have resolved at the moment.

Hensetsu12/2/2017, 6:31:37 PM1 votes

Yeah but bro.

Let's be real now.

Do you REALLY trust a random to play well whilst autofilled?

Most people simply don't bother learning just 1 unpopular champion for Autofilled games.

Kloqdq12/2/2017, 7:04:05 PM1 votes

I wouldn't even be mad if they at least put me in my secondary role. Instead it's always support.

Penta Penguin12/2/2017, 9:10:20 PM1 votes

I've been auto-filled with protection ON on the very first queue pop

combine this with people fucking banning your champ 1/3 games and somedays I log in to play league only to not actually get a game going

The Darius King12/2/2017, 6:22:59 PM1 votes

this just happened to me. in that match rn. top dodge. mid dodge. top dodge top dodge autofill supp p