Riot nerf Wukong cause no counter to his surprise attack yet they buffing up Kayn E and Rengar R ?

ValiantKiller·Aug 21, 2018·23 votes·8,624 views

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/08/821-pbe-update.html

So can hide for longer late game with shoter CDR early on his one shot combo from his R and get more time in walls and get more MS.

was the problem again, let's gut him more special in lane phase for top lane. While fun fact got better win rate and pick rate in top lane with better laning phase over

You guys and your balance team disgust me.

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HotarµAug 21, 201818 votes

-Rengar can be countered with control wards and being close to him during ult. Also, stand near teammates. -Kayn has a massive indicator when he's inside a wall, and engaging combat with him stops him from using the move entirely.

What did Wukong have? Well, if he stopped moving, I guess that was basically an indicator that you and your team were 0.1 seconds away from being ulted.

DartExplosion10Aug 21, 20182 votes

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ModWulf HelhammerAug 21, 20183 votes

They do for the ones that are longer range and cover more distance. Rengar’s ult is one of those.

ValiantKillerAug 21, 20185 votes

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They do for the ones that are longer range and cover more distance. Rengar’s ult is one of those. n

Still that a reason to buff him special his early CDR and give him more time to scare your team late game?

InfernapeAug 21, 20185 votes

Rengar's ult is Camouflage a type of stealth. Control wards reveal camouflaged champions. This includes, Twitch, Pyke and Evelynn

ValiantKillerAug 21, 20186 votes

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Rengar's ult is Camouflage a type of stealth. Control wards reveal camouflaged champions. This includes, Twitch, Pyke and Evelynn

Again does it give riot the right to just buff him ?

SalamencęAug 22, 20181 votes

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control wards dont reveal stealth lol

Why bother commenting if you clearly have no idea what you're talking about?

PercentagesAug 22, 20181 votes

Tell that to Akali.

ValiantKillerAug 21, 20188 votes

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-Rengar can be countered with control wards and being close to him during ult. Also, stand near teammates. -Kayn has a massive indicator when he's inside a wall, and engaging combat with him stops him from using the move entirely.

What did Wukong have? Well, if he stopped moving, I guess that was basically an indicator that you and your team were 0.1 seconds away from being ulted.

So you saying it good to buff them ? Alright go ahead buff them i don't care.

Bad DreeamAug 21, 201813 votes

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-Rengar can be countered with control wards and being close to him during ult. Also, stand near teammates. -Kayn has a massive indicator when he's inside a wall, and engaging combat with him stops him from using the move entirely.

What did Wukong have? Well, if he stopped moving, I guess that was basically an indicator that you and your team were 0.1 seconds away from being ulted.

It's not about whether the champs have counterplay or not. It's about champions getting buffs they don't need.

being close to him during ult

How would it help though? He would jump on anyway and one shot if you're squishy. When he's extremely ahead, no revealing him will help if you're squishy and alone. The only counterplay then is the items, that still aren't always useful to counter the one-shots.

Kayn has a massive indicator when he's inside a wall, engaging combat with him stops him from using the move entirely.

The thing is if it's late game it doesn't matter since he goes in and you're dead as soon as you see him. IMO the buffs are underserved. I don't really care if they're balanced, they have toxic kits.

ValiantKillerAug 21, 20185 votes

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It's not about whether the champs have counterplay or not. It's about champions getting buffs they don't need.

How would it help though? He would jump on anyway and one shot if you're squishy. When he's extremely ahead, no revealing him will help if you're squishy and alone. The only counterplay then is the items, that still aren't always useful to counter the one-shots.

The thing is if it's late game it doesn't matter since he goes in and you're dead as soon as you see him. IMO the buffs are underserved. I don't really care if they're balanced, they have toxic kits.

Right that what i'm talking about, i didn't ask what is the counter but asking why the buffs. Rengar would destroy you out of no where from brush or ult doesn't matter if you saw him or not, he got his leap to jump on you. Kayn i speedy and he will have more control in early game special he can just say no towards and go around it through walls more easily with longer time. But right for people it wukong fault only, he is the only champion that abuse item 3147 and item 3095 like i didn't see Rengar using both items + dark harvest to quada or penta whole team before.

HotarµAug 21, 20181 votes

The point of my comment was to show there is atleast something you can do against Rengar and Kayn.

Legitimately, tell me what you can do to Wukong other than "build armor" and "watch out when he stands still."

ValiantKillerAug 21, 20184 votes

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The point of my comment was to show there is atleast something you can do against Rengar and Kayn.

Legitimately, tell me what you can do to Wukong other than "build armor" and "watch out when he stands still."

And again right now with enough burst seeing them or not, won't make difference your poor adc that doesn't have GA or your squishy mage that doesn't have stopwatch would get deleted from the 3 champions. My question is here simple, why nerf one of the 3 champions and buff the other 2 ? Don't we need to limit down the damage at first place ?

HotarµAug 21, 20181 votes

I didn't say Rengar and Kayn deserved buffs. Personally, I think they don't.

However, Wukong definitely deserved to get hit with some nerfs, which was the point of OP's post.

ValiantKillerAug 21, 20185 votes

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I didn't say Rengar and Kayn deserved buffs. Personally, I think they don't.

However, Wukong definitely deserved to get hit with some nerfs, which was the point of OP's post.

And i didn't ask for buff for wukong neither i care or not, my post just ask why they want to buff assassin that badly when they keep nerfing others or as they say they want to tone down the damage.