Is there any reason why the fire from that item or any other item (
) dont prock Eve W? can we pls make them so they prock it?
Evelynn is the only "Assasin" that warning someone from a huge distance that she is about to come to him and she dosent have any jump or MS steroid after you remove it
At least make it so this items can prock his W
Ok thanks
Cocho2 votesThat would remove the counter play of her hitting the skillshot or closing the gap after you see her lol. Other assassins have some type of delay too
Giggling Granny1 votesThat would remove the counter play of her hitting the skillshot or closing the gap after you see her lol. Other assassins have some type of delay too
hmmm i guess 1600 range W appear on your head vs a champion that have no gap closer is not enough counterplay huh?
Rengar needed his warning because he have 600-800 range leap
Eve dosent not...so her being able to use protobelt from 300 range that protobelt cover its not something that would make her OP...this change wouldnt even make her decent but what ever..
Sona Ping1 votes[{quoted}](name=Giggling Granny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wUebAZ8G,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-12-14T23:10:38.241+0000)
hmmm i guess 1600 range W appear on your head vs a champion that have no gap closer is not enough counterplay huh?
Rengar needed his warning because he have 600-800 range leap
Eve dosent not...so her being able to use protobelt from 300 range that protobelt cover its not something that would make her OP...this change wouldnt even make her decent but what ever..
It's not a detection radius, that has nothing to do with Rengar's situation. It ranks up to 1600 as a cast range which makes it stronger. If the player decides to max range W, and that decision creates a worse result because he decided to max range it, that is his fault.
Giggling Granny1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wUebAZ8G,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-14T23:16:42.977+0000)
It's not a detection radius, that has nothing to do with Rengar's situation. It ranks up to 1600 as a cast range which makes it stronger. If the player decides to max range W, and that decision creates a worse result because he decided to max range it, that is his fault.
no its a big red heart over your head that let you know that evelynn going to taunt you AFTER 2.2 seconds...
While rengar can use ghostblade cover the 2000 range and get insta gibbed from the 800 range leap
You are right my bad even rengar detection system is much better that what evelynn has now...
Sona Ping1 votes[{quoted}](name=Giggling Granny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wUebAZ8G,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-14T23:23:24.409+0000)
no its a big red heart over your head that let you know that evelynn going to taunt you AFTER 2.2 seconds...
While rengar can use ghostblade cover the 2000 range and get insta gibbed from the 800 range leap
You are right my bad even rengar detection system is much better that what evelynn has now...
At least you are willing to concede the main point...
I believe we'll find that a Rengar who is at "insta-gib" levels, if we give similar levels to Evelynn, well... she doesn't even need the CC anymore. Certainly not from what I have watched.
Z3Sleeper1 votesHeheh it's still funny to see that some people think that Evelynn's mark completely gives her away.
Meanwhile I'm one-shotting people before they know where I'm coming from.
Cocho1 votes[{quoted}](name=Giggling Granny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wUebAZ8G,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-12-14T23:10:38.241+0000)
hmmm i guess 1600 range W appear on your head vs a champion that have no gap closer is not enough counterplay huh?
Rengar needed his warning because he have 600-800 range leap
Eve dosent not...so her being able to use protobelt from 300 range that protobelt cover its not something that would make her OP...this change wouldnt even make her decent but what ever..
no i agree, but it's still unhealthy. You just cant compare champs to each other. Other assassins dont have a charm lol. rengar has CC but he doesnt have an out after he kills someone. He'd also have to sacrifice the bars he builds up to use that. He also doesn't ignore wards lol
Stars Shaper2 votes"Prot" is the sound word for farts in my language. From now on this item 
will be known as the Fartbelt.
Linna Excel1 votesThat must be a pretty big fart if it can throw you forward a few feet.
Stars Shaper1 votesNot to mention the firebolts.
Novalas2 votesThe primary reason is that the items would make her W proc pattern too reliable.
But there's also the factor that this would force designers in the future to take into account the fact that Evelynn's W can get proc'd by items. It'd make designing items in the future potentially a lot more problematic. It's easier to just have the ability get proc'd only by Evelynn's spells instead.
As an aside, Evelynn's performing pretty well right now. If you're having difficulties accessing her charm, you may need to try different play patterns (such as flanking, extinguishing the charm early for the slow, or charming a fake target to bait a squishy target into a false sense of security).
Hupsis1 votesAnd what about her E bug? The ability is interrupted if enemy gets out of sight during the cast animation and it goes on cooldown. Kinda screws her ganks whenever it happens.
Novalas4 votesShould be resolved next patch~ Stashu recently solved the issue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EvelynnMains/comments/7htnzk/future_changesadjustments/dqvt158/ That E bug is pretty frustrating, sorry about not squashing that one sooner (it's mostly as you mention, preaseason has been intense). Promise to have something in for that in the next patch (8.1, which isn't until next year, so, sorry about that D: ).
Hupsis1 votesNice!
Kitten of Evil1 votesThanks for reposting! I didn't know this, and it's my one complaint about her current state.
SonicÐeHedgedawg1 votesI find it better that they DON'T proc her E. It means you can use the slow from GLP or Gunblade or the dash on protobelt to help you close distance while your E mark is maturing workout fear of setting it off prematurely. Same with chilling smite.
Also, if you're struggling with Eve, maybe you need to look at your runes. You should be running either celerity or magical footwear for the movespeed to help you get into position easily
Flemman1 voteshey, I also have an evelynn question about item^^
When she is on stealth mode, evelynn can drop ward without losing that status but for other trinket,the red line and the sweeper she lose it. What is the reflexion behind that choice, will she be too powerfull if she remain stealth while using those trinket?
Linna Excel1 votesI really doubt that'll happen. Because she has stealth and hard CC, she needs a lot of counterplay which includes those items not being able to proc her charm. It's supposed to be difficult.
At least make it so this items can prock his W
Evelynn is a dude now?
Giggling Granny1 votes[{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wUebAZ8G,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-12-14T23:13:14.467+0000)
I really doubt that'll happen. Because she has stealth and hard CC, she needs a lot of counterplay which includes those items not being able to proc her charm. It's supposed to be difficult.
Evelynn is a dude now?
difficult? protobelt activasion is still difficult because it only cover 250 range...and it stops on minions...
Rengar have 800 range leap and he warning the enemy team from 2000 range
EVELYN HAVE NO LEAP OR MS SPEED AND SHE WARNING THE ENEMY FROM 1600 RANGE
You do the math..
No wonders why she have 47% win ratio...
Linna Excel1 votesIf anything she needs a nerf.
hoyohai1 votesYes he is.
Nut on my Butt1 votes
also warns people. And Evelynn is the only assassin with perma stealth and therefore ward immunity.
Can people stop trying to break Evelynn into permaban status? She is fine. She's like the only assassin whose winrate actually increases the longer the game goes because her lategame assassination has no counterplay. You don't need W to kill squishies after a couple items.
Muzét1 votesCurses target champion or monster for 5 seconds. If Evelynn hits the target with a basic attack or ability, she will expunge the Curse, refund its mana cost, and briefly slow the target by 65%.If the Curse lasts at least 2.
And to exactly answer your question it simply for the sake of counterplay and balance. By giving power to the kit through an item it can be heavily unbalanced. The item could even be nerf because of that. (Because Riot usually prefers to avoid nerfing a champion because of an item except for extreme abuse). The balance between kit power and build power would be thinner and harder to deal with.
Hextech revolver got what? 700 range? Almost as large as Eve's stealth Radius. You don't want Eve to be balanced around it (it would means that she's more or less obliged to build it to be efficient). And she would be balanced around it since it would be a point & click cc every 40s. The same could apply more or less to other Hextech item since they're both AoE they can land easily (not as much as a point & click) due to large radius hit and fast travel time.
Kai Guy1 votesIf your warning some one from a huge distance your doing it wrong. Target players who have lost hp, get close with passive. Cast Q then cast W befor Q lands for a slow that's dam near undodgiable. Rush in get a Q or two off and E. R for kill only if needed. Use Long Max range W to pressure or if your positioned to flank so that they cant evade you.
Charm is great cc but its also not necessary in many situations and waiting for it is a mistake when all you need is a slow. Also it only points to your direction after its primed.